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Empire Burlesque v World Gone Wrong v Triplicate
Empire Burlesque 21%  21%  [ 17 ]
World Gone Wrong 63%  63%  [ 50 ]
Triplicate 16%  16%  [ 13 ]
Total votes : 80
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PostPosted: Thu March 1st, 2018, 14:20 GMT 
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Please can someone else do the next poll? I've got snow to shovel!


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PostPosted: Thu March 1st, 2018, 15:07 GMT 

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1. Triplicate (I love it)
2. WGW
3. EB


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PostPosted: Thu March 1st, 2018, 15:33 GMT 
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mjmooney wrote:
1. Triplicate (I love it)
2. WGW
3. EB


You better submit your vote, WGW taking an early lead!


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PostPosted: Thu March 1st, 2018, 15:35 GMT 

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dvdunplugged wrote:
mjmooney wrote:
1. Triplicate (I love it)
2. WGW
3. EB


You better submit your vote, WGW taking an early lead!
Was my post not a vote?


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PostPosted: Thu March 1st, 2018, 15:43 GMT 
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No, you have to be logged in and then you can go to the Poll and submit your vote. At the moment WGW leads with 4 votes and EB is second with 1 vote - Triplicate (you love it) is yet to score!


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PostPosted: Thu March 1st, 2018, 19:05 GMT 
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WGW is the clear choice, and the runaway winner of the poll. It's among Dylan's best platters, period.


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PostPosted: Thu March 1st, 2018, 19:09 GMT 
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Ain't Talkin' wrote:
WGW is the clear choice, and the runaway winner of the poll. It's among Dylan's best platters, period.

I donĀ“t normally agree with AT. Quite the opposite, actually. But when he gets it right, he gets it right!


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PostPosted: Thu March 1st, 2018, 20:41 GMT 
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I voted Triplicate because I play it more than WGW
but think WGW is might be better one
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PostPosted: Fri March 2nd, 2018, 01:11 GMT 
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Normally, it would be the album of originals every time, but EB is horrible and I'm not voting for that jacket in any way shape or form. WGW.


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PostPosted: Fri March 2nd, 2018, 02:09 GMT 
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Triplicate, mainly because of this interview: http://www.bobdylan.com/news/qa-with-bill-flanagan/


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PostPosted: Fri March 2nd, 2018, 07:55 GMT 
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Triplicate is way more ambitious than world gone wrong


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PostPosted: Fri March 2nd, 2018, 09:43 GMT 
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1. World Gone Wrong
2. Empire Burlesque
3. Triplicate

Gesendet von meinem SM-J710F mit Tapatalk


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PostPosted: Fri March 2nd, 2018, 10:07 GMT 

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"Triplicate" because I always enjoy a trip with Bob through the mournful surrealistic wastelands of unrequited love 8)


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PostPosted: Fri March 2nd, 2018, 12:06 GMT 

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dvdunplugged wrote:
No, you have to be logged in and then you can go to the Poll and submit your vote. At the moment WGW leads with 4 votes and EB is second with 1 vote - Triplicate (you love it) is yet to score!
Ah. I'm reading this on Tapatalk on my phone. No login/vote option as far as I can see. But that's OK, I don't really care what wins the poll.


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PostPosted: Fri March 2nd, 2018, 12:34 GMT 
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Chocolate Bar

blood whisky

life time of delirious love

---careful when mixing


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PostPosted: Sun March 4th, 2018, 16:05 GMT 

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World Gone Wrong winning.

Good. World hasn't gone completely wrong.


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PostPosted: Sun March 4th, 2018, 19:16 GMT 
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RichardW wrote:
World Gone Wrong winning.

Good. World hasn't gone completely wrong.


Not so sure about that. But I will try to remain hopeful. :?

I listen to WGW every now and again, along with reading excerpts from the Sean Wilentz book, 'Bob Dylan in America', probably my favorite writing on Bob Dylan so far, love the chapter on Delia.

Yeah, WGW is my pick at the moment.


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PostPosted: Mon March 5th, 2018, 10:54 GMT 

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I'm no fan of Empire Burlesque sadly. Horrid production which masks, in some cases, some pretty good songs.

World Gone Wrong is sung by the weary old traveler and is always a delight to listen to. It's stark and very honest. Nothing to hide in those performances.

Triplicate is a difficult one for me as I tend to split it down in to the 3 separate records (Til the Sun Goes Down, Devil Dolls, Comin' Home Late) to get more of a feel for it. However, it's a pretty daring project, and it contains some of my favourite latter day Bob recordings.

It's pretty neck and neck but on this occasion I must go for World Gone Wrong.


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PostPosted: Mon March 5th, 2018, 12:18 GMT 
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It took me a lot longer to get into World Gone Wrong than it did to get into Good As I Been To You. I saw him perform quite a few songs from GAIBTY but don't think I saw him do too many from WGW. It still got my vote here though!


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PostPosted: Thu March 8th, 2018, 04:48 GMT 

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1. WGW
2. Empire
3. Triplishit

Empire gets a bad rap, but I think it's very listenable.


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PostPosted: Fri March 9th, 2018, 00:23 GMT 

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mystic garden wrote:
Triplicate, mainly because of this interview: http://www.bobdylan.com/news/qa-with-bill-flanagan/


I counter with the liner notes to World Gone Wrong:

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About the songs
(what they're about)

BROKE DOWN ENGINE is a Blind Willie Mctell masterpiece. it's about trains, mystery on the rails -- the train of love, the train that carried my girl from town -- The Southern Pacific, Baltimore & Ohio whatever -- it's about variations of human longing -- the low hum in meter & syllables. it's about dupes of commerce & politics colliding on tracks, not being pushed around by ordinary standards. it's about revival, getting a new lease on life, not just posing there -- paint chipped & flaked, mattress bare, single bulb swinging above the bed. it's about Ambiguity, the fortunes of the privilege elite, flood control -- watching the red dawn not bothering to dress.

LOVE HENRY is a "traditionalist" ballad. Tom Paley used to do it. a perverse tale. Henry -- modern corporate man off some foreign boat, unable to handle his "psychosis" responsible for organizing the Intelligentsia, disarming the people, an infantile sensualist -- white teeth, wide smile, lotza money, kowtow to fairy queen exploiters & corrupt religious establishments, career minded, limousine double parked, imposing his will & dishonest garbage in popular magazines. he lays his head on a pillow of down & falls asleep. he shoulda known better, he must've had a hearing problem.

STACK A LEE is Frank Hutchinson's version. what does the song say exactly? it says no man gains immortality thru public acclaim. truth is shadowy. in the pre-postindustrial age, victims of violence were allowed (in fact it was their duty) to be judges over their offenders -- parents were punished for their children's crimes (we've come a long way since then) the song says that a man's hat is his crown. futurologists would insist it's a matter of taste. they say "let's sleep on it" but theory already living in the sanitarium. No Rights Without Duty is the name of the game & fame is a trick. playing for time is only horsing around. Stack's in a cell, no wall phone. he is not some egotistical degraded existentialist dionysian idiot, neither does he represent any alternative lifestyle scam (give me a thousand acres of tractable land & all the gang members that exist & you'll see the Authentic alternative lifestyle, the Agrarian one) Billy didn't have an insurance plan, didn't get airsick yet his ghost is more real & genuine than all the dead souls on the boob tube -- a monumental epic of blunder & misunderstanding. a romance tale without the cupidity.

BLOOD IN MY EYES is one of two songs done by the Mississippi Sheiks, a little known de facto group whom in their former glory must've been something to behold. rebellion against routine seems to be their strong theme. all their songs are raw to the bone & are faultlessly made for these modern times (the New Dark Ages) nothing effete about the Mississippi Sheiks.

WORLD GONE WRONG is also by them & goes against cultural policy. "strange things are happening like never before" strange things alright -- strange things like courage becoming befuddled & nonfundamental. evil charlatans masquerading in pullover vests & tuxedos talking gobbledygook, monstrous pompous superficial pageantry parading down lonely streets on limited access highways. strange things indeed -- irrationalist bimbos & bozos, the stuff of legend, coming in from left field -- infamy on the landscape -- "pray to the Good Lord" hit the light switch!

JACK-A-ROE is another Tom Paley ballad (Tom, one of the original New Lost City Ramblers) the young virgin follows her heart (which can't be confined) & in it the secrets of the universe. "there was a wealthy merchant" wealthy & philosophically influential perhaps with an odd penchant for young folk. the song cannot be categorized -- is worlds away from reality but "gets inside" reality anyway & strips it of its steel and concrete. inverted symmetry, legally stateless, traveling under a false passport. "before you step on board, sir..." are you any good at what you do? submerge you personality.

DELIA is one sad tale-two or more versions mixed into one. the song has no middle range, comes whipping around the corner, seems to be about counterfeit loyalty. Delia herself, no Queen Gertrude, Elizabeth 1 or even Evita Peron, doesn't ride a Harley Davidson across the desert highway, doesn't need a blood change & would never go on a shopping spree. the guy in the courthouse sounds like a pimp in primary colors. he's not interested in mosques on the temple mount, armageddon or world war 111, doesn't put his face in his knees & weep & wears no dunce hat, makes no apology & is doomed to obscurity. does this song have rectitude? you bet. toleration of the unacceptable leads to the last round-up. the singer's not talking from a head full of booze.

Jerry Garcia showed me TWO SOLDIERS (Hazel & Alice do it pretty similar) a battle song extraordinaire, some dragoon officer's epaulettes laying liquid in the mud, physical plunge into Limitationville, war dominated by finance (lending money for interest being a nauseating & revolting thing) love is not collateral. hittin' em where they ain't (in the imperfect state that they're in) America when Mother was the queen of Her heart, before Charlie Chaplin, before the Wild One, before the Children of the Sun -- before the celestial grunge, before the insane world of entertainment exploded in our faces -- before all the ancient & honorable artillery had been taken out of the city, learning to go forward by turning back the clock, stopping the mind from thinking in hours, firing a few random shots at the face of time.

RAGGED & DIRTY one of the Willie Browns did this -- schmaltz & pickled herring, stuffed cabbage, heavy moral vocabulary -- sweetness & sentiment, house rocking, superior beauty, not just standing there -- the seductive magic of the thumbs up salute, carefully thought out overtones & stepping sideways, the idols of human worship paying thru the nose, lords of the illogical in smoking jackets, sufferers from a weak education, pieces of a jigsaw puzzle -- taking stupid chances -- being mistreated only just so far.

LONE PILGRIM is from an old Doc Watson record. what attracts me to the song is how the lunacy of trying to fool the self is set aside at some given point. salvation & the needs of mankind are prominent & hegemony takes a breathing spell. "my soul flew to mansions on high" what's essentially true is virtual reality. technology to wipe out truth is now available. not everybody can afford it but it's available. when the cost comes down look out! there wont be songs like these anymore. factually there aren't any now.

by the way, don't be bewildered by the Never Ending Tour chatter. there was a Never Ending Tour but it ended in '91 with the departure of guitarist G.E. Smith. that one's long gone but there have been many others since then. The Money Never Runs Out Tour (fall of '91) Southern Sympathizer Tour (early '92) Why Do You Look At Me So Strangley Tour (European '92) The One Sad Cry of Pity Tour (Australia & West Coast America '92) Principles Of Action Tour (Mexico -- South American '92) Outburst Of Consciousness Tour ('92) Don't Let Your Deal Go Down Tour('93) & others too many to mention each with their own character & design. to know which was which consult the playlists.
- Bob Dylan


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PostPosted: Fri March 9th, 2018, 01:08 GMT 
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Well it's got to be the amazing 'World Gone Wrong' this time, though 'Triplicate' does have a slew of amazing performances as well.


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PostPosted: Tue March 13th, 2018, 01:49 GMT 

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World Gone Wrong wins for the liner notes alone.


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PostPosted: Tue March 13th, 2018, 17:35 GMT 
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Dylan is credited for those liner notes. Is it certain he didn't have a little help. In his speech I've never ever known him to actually use a word like 'hegemony.'


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