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PostPosted: Tue February 13th, 2018, 20:44 GMT 
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Yes, I do believe Planet Waves is under-appreciated. Heavyweights
Blood & Desire sort of put in the shade, but is that really justified?
Here some reasons why I feel Planet Waves is no less than glorious.

1 The Band are incredible. Though these songs were rather new to
the players, they sound fully lived in & fleshed out, without a trace
of professional slick or a hint of routine.
2 Three stone masterpieces here: Wedding Song, Dirge & Forever
Young. Nothing to add to that.
3 Robertson's guitar playing still gives me shivers. What he does in
those first 15 seconds of Going Going Gone is carved in the rock.
4 Dylan reached a new level of maturity and transparency on Planet
Waves. 1974 saw a Dylan who had grown through third person folk
narratives, psychedelic riddles and generic country love songs to
the confidence to make an unveiled and personal statement.
Planet Waves is Dylan's first confessional record. Blood on the Tracks,
Desire, Street Legal, Saved and Time Out of Mind explored the same
tradition with varying degrees of success.
5 Rob Fabroni did a beautiful job in capturing what happened during
those session in the Village Recorder. Clean sound, excellent mix, and
a production that is still radio-ready in 2018.
6 The songs!! Even beyond the highlights there is a staggering amount
of quality material here. Hazel, Never Say Goodbye, Something There
Is About You, Tough Mama, You Angel You. They all ring true.
7 On that note, the record has a signature sound all of its own.
You will never confuse a tune from Planet Waves with any other album.
8 The singing!!! Did Dylan's voice ever sound better? Planet Waves has
all of the richness & grit and none of the wheeze, whine or wither of
the latter day Saint.
9 The chemistry between Bob & the Band is evident and tangible
throughout. There have been many bands over the years, but none of
them could quite match the Hawks at their best.
10 Planet Waves was a triumph with confidence in Dylan's artistic
relevance fully restored, giving him his first ever no.1 album (the
first of five). Greater things had come before, greater things were still
to come, but Planet Waves is a landmark album that can never be
replicated or replaced. And (but you guessed that already) I love it.


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PostPosted: Tue February 13th, 2018, 21:03 GMT 
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I’d want to agree but on each return the Charlie fades after a couple of listens and ever quicker.

To my ears there’s a rhythmic mismatch between the backing and Dylan’s singing.

Rusty sings the blues


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PostPosted: Tue February 13th, 2018, 21:18 GMT 
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That this record went to number one also perhaps has to do with having the Geffen machine behind him ? It was greatly overpressed, so I've heard.


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PostPosted: Tue February 13th, 2018, 21:22 GMT 
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One of my favorite Dylan records. I think it's better than Blood On The Tracks. Every track is great.


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PostPosted: Tue February 13th, 2018, 21:24 GMT 
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I enjoy it but I don't think it's one of his best. Right below the best. Dirge is a masterpiece though.


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PostPosted: Tue February 13th, 2018, 21:31 GMT 
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I like Planet Waves, I play it regularly, some good points gerardv

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PostPosted: Tue February 13th, 2018, 21:36 GMT 
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effort wrote:
I’d want to agree but on each return the Charlie fades after a couple of listens and ever quicker.

To my ears there’s a rhythmic mismatch between the backing and Dylan’s singing.

Rusty sings the blues

Yea I know what you mean Effort. PW is not a statement of precision.
Personally I like the footloose.


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PostPosted: Tue February 13th, 2018, 21:40 GMT 

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A very strong album, that I wouldn't rate quite as highly as the OP. Perhaps, to me, it lost some of its impact due to the content, in the thematical rather than qualitative sense, of its successor. If it had come out a year or two earlier...


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PostPosted: Tue February 13th, 2018, 21:41 GMT 
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That’s fine, the closest cut for me is the slow Forever young - past and present in the future


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PostPosted: Tue February 13th, 2018, 21:54 GMT 
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My Echo, My Shadow And Me wrote:
One of my favorite Dylan records. I think it's better than Blood On The Tracks. Every track is great.


Whoo! Whoo! Someone call the hot take police!


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PostPosted: Tue February 13th, 2018, 23:32 GMT 
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Planet Waves is certainly loved over here.
Always has been, including the Nobody 'Cept You outtake.

This was the 1974 Tour kickoff album, or was supposed to be.
Ceremonies of the Horsemen!

Geffen intentionally left off the live versions of these great tunes from Before the Flood for business purposes, most likely. Who would buy Planet Waves if those songs were on Flood? Those versions will be part of a Bootleg Series someday.

The Band had just come off the largest gathering in RocknRoll history, Watkins Glen, with the Dead & the Allmans. They were on their game. So was Bob after his long "rest."

Finally Bob was back, and no one could feel the way we felt at the time, anymore, because Tangled & Desire came out in the blink of an eye and superseded & shuffled Planet Waves into the background.

This bunch of super-talented, naturally-charged long-time players who instinctually could sense one another's moves, got together and pumped out some to their best collaborative music in short order.
And then they hit the road!

This album is, of course, WAY underrated and deserves to be yanked off the shelf RIGHT NOW and re-ignited!

From Ceremonies of the Horsemen to Wedding Song to finally:
Planet Waves

Raise your glasses to this stupendous release!


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PostPosted: Tue February 13th, 2018, 23:51 GMT 

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Great album.

I love the "basement" vibe it has. Really relaxed, mellow and simple performance, no OTT guitar solos or screechy backing singers. Just great songs, laid down by a tight band.

"Nobody 'Cept You" is one of my favourite Dylan songs.


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PostPosted: Wed February 14th, 2018, 01:18 GMT 
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Oh yeah this album is such dynamite.


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PostPosted: Wed February 14th, 2018, 01:37 GMT 
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With Planet Waves I had that wonderful experience of buying Dylan's most recent LP after being nurtured on everything before. I was 18. It seemed like he was still in New Morning mode, but something in the meanwhile had gone slightly wrong, unbalanced maybe, the first sense of uncertainty in Dylan's achievements. I was charmed and dismayed by On a Night Like This, Forever Young and Dirge. It's only 35 years later you realise what it was leading to. Great transitional, very personal, album.


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PostPosted: Wed February 14th, 2018, 04:20 GMT 
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There is some of the most beautiful Garth Hudson playing on this one. These little moments. Like what he's doing right around the "build a ladder to the stars" part.

Something There Is About You, Never Say Goodbye, Dirge, Going Going Gone, Forever Young. All great. Tough Mama...hotter than a crotch. And all he did was watch. Wedding Song is the only one I don't like. It's the lyrics.


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PostPosted: Wed February 14th, 2018, 04:34 GMT 
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IMO, the lyrics of Tough Mama are insipid, one of the bring-down tracks. The Band sound good on it, they can (just about) save it.


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PostPosted: Wed February 14th, 2018, 07:38 GMT 
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you speak da truth, Gerard.
Planet waves doesn´t get the credit it deserves.
Great songs (Going going gone being my favorite, and one of my all time favorite Dylan tracks), great musicianship, great energy. You can really feel, after a few low key records, that Bob is building up the energy that would explode one year later in the RTR.

I need to hear this again. And I need a vinyl copy of it


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PostPosted: Wed February 14th, 2018, 08:03 GMT 
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If this record was a child, it would be dragged to a psychiatrist who'd probably diagnose an inferiority complex due to overpowering siblings...


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PostPosted: Wed February 14th, 2018, 08:49 GMT 
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bloodblondehighwayhome wrote:
If this record was a child, it would be dragged to a psychiatrist who'd probably diagnose an inferiority complex due to overpowering siblings...

nice one :D


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PostPosted: Wed February 14th, 2018, 11:00 GMT 

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I've always loved the feel of this album. I remember buying it on the King's rd when it first came out.
Maybe "nobody 'cept you" should have replaced one of the "forever young" tracks ? Anyway, nice to
know it has a good following.


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PostPosted: Wed February 14th, 2018, 11:08 GMT 
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It's a strange album for me. When I fire it up, I always think I am going to like it more than I actually do.
I can't put my finger on why - I like most of the songs.
Maybe it just sounds forced in comparison to BOTT?

I'm pretty sure I'd love it if I'd heard it when it first came out and I'd suffered through the lean years.


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PostPosted: Wed February 14th, 2018, 11:33 GMT 
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For some reason I rarely listen to this album. But when I do, I enjoy it.


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PostPosted: Wed February 14th, 2018, 12:28 GMT 
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TheBoiledGutsofBirds wrote:
"Nobody 'Cept You" is one of my favourite Dylan songs.


Mine too, in its live incarnation, but I think the out-take is completely overrated and a failure - I'm glad he left it off the album as it drains the very heart and soul out of the song.

I also think Forever Young is an abominably twee and obvious song - I can see its appeal, but it may as well have been written for a Hallmark card and come with a box of chocolates.


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PostPosted: Wed February 14th, 2018, 12:52 GMT 
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slimtimslide wrote:
I also think Forever Young is an abominably twee and obvious song - I can see its appeal, but it may as well have been written for a Hallmark card and come with a box of chocolates.

As much as I love the song, and therefor it hurts a bit to say this, I agree with you. Not his most complex piece of work.
And the fast version of it should have been left out of the record.


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PostPosted: Wed February 14th, 2018, 16:33 GMT 
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kimriX wrote:
bloodblondehighwayhome wrote:
If this record was a child, it would be dragged to a psychiatrist who'd probably diagnose an inferiority complex due to overpowering siblings...

nice one :D


Thanks! :D :wink:

Well, I love Planet Waves and I rate it over Street Legal. Dirge foreshadowed what was to follow on BotT in an exquisite way.


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