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 Post subject: STADOWS!
PostPosted: Thu December 14th, 2017, 15:39 GMT 

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From the Uncut interview with Love and Theft engineer Chris Shaw:

But, the thing was, there’s a lyric on the song where Bob sings, “The leaves cast their shadows on the stones,” and, when he was singing it live, he was reading his lyrics off a piece of paper, and, I guess, for a split-second, he got dyslexic, because on the live take, he actually sang, “The leaves cast their *stadows* on the stones.” So, the only time I did any editing on that song, was when I heard this word “stadows” go by, I knew he meant shadows, because I had the lyric sheet in front of me. So, when I tried a remix, I took the vocal, and I found a “sh” from somewhere else, and I chopped the “st” out and put that in, so he was singing “shadows,” y’know. And Bob was listening to all these mixes, and he kept saying, “Nah, man, I really wanna use that rough mix.” Finally, I said, “Well, you know, on the rough mix, you don’t sing ‘shadows,’ you sing, ‘stadows.” And he took a long hit on his cigarette, and he kind of looked at me deadpan, and he went, “Well, you know:*‘stadows.’*” So, at the final mastering, we figured that we really couldn’t let that stadows go by, because everybody would give him shit about it, so we did sliver edit, literally just for the “sh,” like a 15 milisecond edit.

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I just got the MFSL SACD reissue of Love and Theft and to my surprise, "stadows" is right there at about 1:35-1:40 on "Moonlight." Instant collector's item!


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 Post subject: Re: STADOWS!
PostPosted: Thu December 14th, 2017, 16:15 GMT 
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how does the the sound compare to the old SACD? Thinking about getting this but not sure it would be night and day difference with what I have (CD, SACD & original vinyl).


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 Post subject: Re: STADOWS!
PostPosted: Thu December 14th, 2017, 16:55 GMT 
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Stame the album is a bit stit.


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 Post subject: Re: STADOWS!
PostPosted: Thu December 14th, 2017, 18:47 GMT 
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 Post subject: Re: STADOWS!
PostPosted: Thu December 14th, 2017, 19:00 GMT 

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Stadows in the Night.


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 Post subject: Re: STADOWS!
PostPosted: Thu December 14th, 2017, 20:17 GMT 
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 Post subject: Re: STADOWS!
PostPosted: Thu December 14th, 2017, 21:44 GMT 
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Haha :D
I'll have to listen carefully next time when I play the MFSL. Funny they decided to fix "stadows" but let that "strape" (Mississippi) slip by...

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 Post subject: Re: STADOWS!
PostPosted: Thu December 14th, 2017, 21:56 GMT 

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 Post subject: Re: STADOWS!
PostPosted: Thu December 14th, 2017, 21:58 GMT 
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Stadows in the Night.


Nah, mad dogs in my tights it is


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 Post subject: Re: STADOWS!
PostPosted: Thu December 14th, 2017, 22:03 GMT 

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belfast wrote:

I just got the MFSL SACD reissue of Love and Theft and to my surprise, "stadows" is right there at about 1:35-1:40 on "Moonlight." Instant collector's item!


Any chance we could hear that little excerpt? Also curious to know if you think the MFSL CD of that album was worth it - I'm eyeing it!


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 Post subject: Re: STADOWS!
PostPosted: Thu December 14th, 2017, 22:20 GMT 

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DarkEyes wrote:
belfast wrote:

I just got the MFSL SACD reissue of Love and Theft and to my surprise, "stadows" is right there at about 1:35-1:40 on "Moonlight." Instant collector's item!


Any chance we could hear that little excerpt? Also curious to know if you think the MFSL CD of that album was worth it - I'm eyeing it!

I think it's worth it. The original CD is brick walled, and this one is definitely not, MUCH more dynamic. I can't compare it to Sony's SACD mastering, but generally those have a bit of a boost in the upper mids compared to MFSL's masterings.


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 Post subject: Re: STADOWS!
PostPosted: Thu December 14th, 2017, 22:46 GMT 
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It's legal to share less than 30 seconds of a copyrighted song, right? :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: STADOWS!
PostPosted: Fri December 15th, 2017, 00:12 GMT 
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gibsona07 wrote:
It's legal to share less than 30 seconds of a copyrighted song, right? :wink:

If not, it’s certainly INSANE to dwell on a 15 milisecond edit.
And maybe INSANER to go buy yet another copy due to this.


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 Post subject: Re: STADOWS!
PostPosted: Fri December 15th, 2017, 04:34 GMT 
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Still Go Barefoot wrote:
gibsona07 wrote:
It's legal to share less than 30 seconds of a copyrighted song, right? :wink:

If not, it’s certainly INSANE to dwell on a 15 milisecond edit.
And maybe INSANER to go buy yet another copy due to this.


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 Post subject: Re: STADOWS!
PostPosted: Fri December 15th, 2017, 05:40 GMT 
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Yes, but buying it to get improved sound is not.

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Haha :D
I'll have to listen carefully next time when I play the MFSL. Funny they decided to fix "stadows" but let that "strape" (Mississippi) slip by...


Agreed. That's a pretty glaring thing to include on an actual record album.

Great take of the song, though, so I don't worry about it.


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 Post subject: Re: STADOWS!
PostPosted: Fri December 15th, 2017, 18:20 GMT 
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Stame the album is a bit stit.



Pfffft. You know this ain't so, ornery ol' hoss!


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 Post subject: Re: STADOWS!
PostPosted: Fri December 15th, 2017, 19:16 GMT 
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Great album.

Good tidbit, thank you for sharing.


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 Post subject: Re: STADOWS!
PostPosted: Sat December 16th, 2017, 01:07 GMT 
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He took a long hit on his cigarette, and he kind of looked at me deadpan, and he went, Well, you know: *‘stadows’*

Bob holds the insane belief that his listeners will swallow him hook line and sinker, almost no matter what. Countless examples abound.

I do think he's correct that technical errors affect the overall presentation less than miscues of taste, style and overall artistry.


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