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PostPosted: Tue May 2nd, 2017, 14:10 GMT 

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Hi, I created the same thread on a certain forum for other musician and it was pretty popular among posters there, so I think it would be interesting to do it here...

There are many songs of Bob Dylan that most of his fans share their love for, such as Like a Rolling Stone, Blowin' in the Wind, Don't Think Twice, It's All Right, Mr. Tambourine Man, All Along the Watchtower, I Shall Be Released, Tangled Up in Blue, to name a few...

Now, are there that kind of songs you don't care much for? Mine is:
・I'm not just familiar with I Shall Be Released- and It never hooked me.
・I consider Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues as the dullest song on Highway 61 Revisited album.

I think that's it. I've been away from Dylan for several week for personal reason, so there must be more, though.

Anyway, looking forward to seeing your interesting dislikes.


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PostPosted: Tue May 2nd, 2017, 14:51 GMT 
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Mississippi and Working Man Blues come to mind. I don't mind Mississippi, just don't love it like a lot of people around here seem to. I don't see the appeal of Working Man's Blues whatsoever.


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PostPosted: Tue May 2nd, 2017, 15:14 GMT 

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Okay, I'll play. The songs I dislike tend to be the self-important ones, the big statements. Sometimes he pulls it off brilliantly ("Blind Willie McTell," "A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall"). Sometimes the pretentiousness makes me cringe, but I still like the song somehow ("It's Alright Ma," "Chimes of Freedom," "Ring Them Bells").

With God on Our Side. Seven dreary minutes to repeat, over and over again, one simple idea. Agreeing with the idea doesn’t make it a good song.
Every Grain of Sand. Flatulent. Baring his soul through fatuous abstractions.
Not Dark Yet. If he’d stuck with the faster tempo he apparently tried at first, I’d probably have a much different opinion. The draggy tempo, with a long dramatic pause in the middle of every line, just makes it all crushingly obvious.


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PostPosted: Tue May 2nd, 2017, 15:55 GMT 

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Sara. Can't stand it.


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PostPosted: Tue May 2nd, 2017, 19:56 GMT 

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Never really been a big fan of Ballad of a Thin Man, as shocking as that might seem....grave


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PostPosted: Tue May 2nd, 2017, 19:58 GMT 
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Blowin' In The Wind. Bores me rigid.


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PostPosted: Tue May 2nd, 2017, 20:13 GMT 
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I'm not sure I'd give the same answer in case you mean *fans* as *experts, collectors, fan(atics)* or *fans* as general public who love music.
The 2 groups do not share the same tastes.

I'll answer in both cases.

The songs I don't care even though they are loved by fans are:
- Any from Oh Mercy / Time Out Of Mind / Love And Theft
(with the exception of Mississippi).

The songs I don't care even though they are loved by the general public are:
- Blowin' In The Wind
- Masters Of War
- Don't Think Twice


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PostPosted: Tue May 2nd, 2017, 21:08 GMT 
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Mr. Tambourine Man, A hard rain's a-gonna fall and, somehow, Blowin' in the wind, which I only really like in the At Budokan version (and maybe recent live versions).

OK, now beat me :roll:


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PostPosted: Tue May 2nd, 2017, 21:53 GMT 
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GuillemTM wrote:
Mr. Tambourine Man, A hard rain's a-gonna fall and, somehow, Blowin' in the wind, which I only really like in the At Budokan version (and maybe recent live versions).

OK, now beat me :roll:


Not me.

The only *blowin' in the wind(s)* I like are the electric ones.
The *Before the Flood* rendition is by far and large my favourite version.


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PostPosted: Wed May 3rd, 2017, 03:22 GMT 

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Tim Finnegan wrote:
Mississippi and Working Man Blues come to mind. I don't mind Mississippi, just don't love it like a lot of people around here seem to. I don't see the appeal of Working Man's Blues whatsoever.


I don't either. I guess it supposed to equate to protest 2006 or something.


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PostPosted: Wed May 3rd, 2017, 03:54 GMT 
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There's only a couple Bob Dylan songs I don't care for. Neither would be considered ones that fans love.


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PostPosted: Wed May 3rd, 2017, 04:59 GMT 
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Most of his work from '62 to mid-'65


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PostPosted: Wed May 3rd, 2017, 07:42 GMT 
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mystic garden wrote:
Most of his work from '62 to mid-'65


well, who does?


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PostPosted: Wed May 3rd, 2017, 10:14 GMT 

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- All Along the Watchtower
- Dark Eyes
- Gates of Eden
- Highway 61 Revisited
- The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll
- Masters of War
- With God on Our Side


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PostPosted: Wed May 3rd, 2017, 13:02 GMT 
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This is a pretty interesting question, and I wonder if I have any decent answers to it. Strangely, I do like most of his catalog, and the parts I don't like (Another Side, Empire Burlesque - Down In The Groove) are pretty much the same ones that other fans find to be middling at best. More often I find myself in the opposite position, enjoying deeply songs that others don't especially care for ("Shot Of Love," "Santa Fe," "Shake Shake Mama").

Hm... if I had to pick a song or two that I don't find moving, but that others do, I'd probably look most immediately to the Basement Tapes. "Tears of Rage" is interesting, but not a song that I connect too closely to; I like it more than I used to at least. Like most of the serious Basement Tapes songs, I think it suffers from a lack of specificity, or perhaps a lack of revision. That collection of material is generally at its best either when Dylan and the Band are having fun or playing other peoples' songs. I feel quite similarly about "Too Much Of Nothing," which is actually a song I don't care for at all. Musically, I find it pretty dreadful. Finally, I guess I'd say "Life Is Hard." It's a nice enough song, but it sounds like Dylan could have presented a better performance of it. His singing is shrill at times, and even though he'd go on to use this voice to greater effect from 2013-2017 (so far), I don't think he'd quite figured it out by 2009.


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PostPosted: Wed May 3rd, 2017, 13:41 GMT 
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I've never been a fan of Baby Blue yet most/a lot of fans rave about it.


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PostPosted: Wed May 3rd, 2017, 14:50 GMT 

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Ballad Of A Thin Man.

Every single live Version of Highway 61


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PostPosted: Wed May 3rd, 2017, 16:47 GMT 

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Agree about both Tears of Rage and Baby Blue. May I add Hattie Carroll as well? Brilliant lyrics, granted, but the music is pretty boring.


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PostPosted: Wed May 3rd, 2017, 18:19 GMT 
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I'll say it:

- Lay Lady Lay
- Mr. Tambourine Man
- Forever Young
- If You See Her, Say Hello

(I'm sorry... they just never did anything for me. Well, maybe a twinge, but nothing earth shattering)


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PostPosted: Wed May 3rd, 2017, 18:22 GMT 

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Brownsville/New Danville Girl. Don't know what all the fuss is about.


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PostPosted: Wed May 3rd, 2017, 18:33 GMT 

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Yes, agree about Brownsville Girl. You might add Red River Shore as well. Plus the crooner stuff like Moonlight, Poor Boy, Life Is Hard, This Dream of You etc. He does that kind of music far better on the Sinatra albums, which are actually quite good, all of them. IMHO


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PostPosted: Wed May 3rd, 2017, 21:39 GMT 

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I actively dislike these:
LAY LADY LAY
IF NOT FOR YOU
Girl From The North Country (duet version)
Gotta Serve Somebody
Most of "Love and Theft" and "Modern Times" (except Mississippi)

I find these OK but I don't love them:
Changing of the Guards
Forever Young
Every Grain of Sand
Blind Willie McTell
Foot of Pride
Angelina


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PostPosted: Wed May 3rd, 2017, 22:07 GMT 

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Brownsville Girl - all style no substance, and the bombast doesn't help


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PostPosted: Thu May 4th, 2017, 01:31 GMT 

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monklover wrote:
Brownsville Girl - all style no substance, and the bombast doesn't help


Yes, put me down for this one as well!


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PostPosted: Thu May 4th, 2017, 01:49 GMT 
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Knocking on Heaven's Door
Lay Lady Lay
Working Man Blues

People seem to like those far more than I do. But they're Bob songs so I still like them fine.


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