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 Post subject: Re: The Cutting Edge
PostPosted: Wed August 9th, 2017, 14:34 GMT 
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Yes I have heard all eighteen discs now, thanks to the magic of the internet. The simple reason I said, 'nothing is revealed' is you can listen to x amount of versions of (insert your own song title) and they don't really give any indication of how the released version came about. I'm probably not explaining this very well but listen to say 'Memphis Blues Again' as an example. There's some interesting versions but there doesn't be a linear progression. So one take you get this slowed down version, a take or two later it has become the released version. So what I'm trying to say is even with all the released takes etc the listener is no closer to solving the mystery of where the final versions came from. Having listened through all 18 discs I would also say there is a hell of a lot of inconsequential stuff too.


There isn't any mistery I think, in most cases he seemed to have pretty clear what he was looking for from the first take. In some others, it takes a lot to laugh, visions, desolation row... The final version came from, I guess, from Dylan talking to the musicians before they start to record, and from Dylan re-writing some lines of the songs.


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 Post subject: Re: The Cutting Edge
PostPosted: Thu July 19th, 2018, 16:14 GMT 
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You all asked for it (not really), and I’m giving it to you (really).

Listening to TCE today.


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 Post subject: Re: The Cutting Edge
PostPosted: Thu July 19th, 2018, 17:12 GMT 

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 Post subject: Re: The Cutting Edge
PostPosted: Fri July 20th, 2018, 11:09 GMT 
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Nightingale's Code wrote:
I've run through all 18 discs just once. Never felt compelled to do it again, although there are a couple tracks that stuck around that I go back to often.

When I got it I played it through 3 times in my car. Apart from the fact it is on the music app in my phone which I play on the random setting while I am showering etc.
I will hear it all through again soon.


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 Post subject: Re: The Cutting Edge
PostPosted: Fri July 20th, 2018, 19:42 GMT 
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I went through the whole thing a couple of times, and for the third time, I made note of the most interesting takes and false starts.
Knowing that I would never listen to TCE in its entirety again, I used Audacity to make individual tracks of each song that combine the false starts, odd takes, and masters.

For example, instead of listening to 10 separate tracks of Highway 61 Revisited (covering 9 'takes'), I've combined takes 2, 3, 7, 8, and the master take 9 into one track. Now when it comes up, I have one 8-minute track of how H61 progressed in the studio.

This is easy for some tracks, but some came out quite long (hard to leave off ANY take of Visions of Johanna).
For me, at least, it makes the whole listening process much simpler. Also, this gives me another reason to listen to the Cutting Edge raw mixes of the master takes, which are interesting in and of themselves.


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 Post subject: Re: The Cutting Edge
PostPosted: Sat July 21st, 2018, 04:38 GMT 
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Whatever anybody else says, for me, this will always be the holy grail!
Much as I love his whole career, the 1965-1966 period is unique in the way it both demonstrated his genius and captured the zeitgeist of the times.


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 Post subject: Re: The Cutting Edge
PostPosted: Sat July 21st, 2018, 05:51 GMT 

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I've grown to love the BS that immerse themselves in one period. I love Complete Basement Tapes, Cutting Edge (8 CD), and Trouble No More for these reasons. I prefer to listen to Cutting Edge than the original albums--it's a more "colourful" experience, organic and still unexpected at times. Particularly like having multiple takes of the same song side-by-side.


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 Post subject: Re: The Cutting Edge
PostPosted: Wed July 25th, 2018, 18:21 GMT 

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Just coming out of the other side of a total immersement in 'The Cutting Edge - Collectors Edition', after drifting away after a few listens initially. To be fair, import fees, missing disc, more import fees, to-ing & fro-ing for import fee refunds took the shine off it at the time.
Anyways, I really enjoyed it this time around, it is indeed a treasure trove of goodness. Even got a turntable these days so I gave the 45's a spin. Just fabulous!


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