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PostPosted: Tue September 25th, 2012, 20:24 GMT 

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Up on the white veranda
She wears a necktie and a Panama hat
Her passport shows a face
From another time and place
She looks nothin’ like that
And all the remnants of her recent past
Are scattered in the wild wind
She walks across the marble floor
Where a voice from the gambling room is callin’ her to come on in
She smiles, walks the other way
As the last ship sails and the moon fades away
From Black Diamond Bay

As the mornin’ light breaks open, the Greek comes down
And he asks for a rope and a pen that will write
“Pardon, monsieur,” the desk clerk says
Carefully removes his fez
“Am I hearin’ you right?”
And as the yellow fog is liftin’
The Greek is quickly headin’ for the second floor
She passes him on the spiral staircase
Thinkin’ he’s the Soviet Ambassador
She starts to speak, but he walks away
As the storm clouds rise and the palm branches sway
On Black Diamond Bay

A soldier sits beneath the fan
Doin’ business with a tiny man who sells him a ring
Lightning strikes, the lights blow out
The desk clerk wakes and begins to shout
“Can you see anything?”
Then the Greek appears on the second floor
In his bare feet with a rope around his neck
While a loser in the gambling room lights up a candle
Says, “Open up another deck”
But the dealer says, “Attendez-vous, s’il vous plait”
As the rain beats down and the cranes fly away
From Black Diamond Bay

The desk clerk heard the woman laugh
As he looked around the aftermath and the soldier got tough
He tried to grab the woman’s hand
Said, “Here’s a ring, it cost a grand”
She said, “That ain’t enough”
Then she ran upstairs to pack her bags
While a horse-drawn taxi waited at the curb
She passed the door that the Greek had locked
Where a handwritten sign read, “Do Not Disturb”
She knocked upon it anyway
As the sun went down and the music did play
On Black Diamond Bay

“I’ve got to talk to someone quick!”
But the Greek said, “Go away,” and he kicked the chair to the floor
He hung there from the chandelier
She cried, “Help, there’s danger near
Please open up the door!”
Then the volcano erupted
And the lava flowed down from the mountain high above
The soldier and the tiny man were crouched in the corner
Thinking of forbidden love
But the desk clerk said, “It happens every day”
As the stars fell down and the fields burned away
On Black Diamond Bay

As the island slowly sank
The loser finally broke the bank in the gambling room
The dealer said, “It’s too late now
You can take your money, but I don’t know how
You’ll spend it in the tomb”
The tiny man bit the soldier’s ear
As the floor caved in and the boiler in the basement blew
While she’s out on the balcony, where a stranger tells her
“My darling, je vous aime beaucoup”
She sheds a tear and then begins to pray
As the fire burns on and the smoke drifts away
From Black Diamond Bay

I was sittin’ home alone one night in L.A.
Watchin’ old Cronkite on the seven o’clock news
It seems there was an earthquake that
Left nothin’ but a Panama hat
And a pair of old Greek shoes
Didn’t seem like much was happenin’,
So I turned it off and went to grab another beer
Seems like every time you turn around
There’s another hard-luck story that you’re gonna hear
And there’s really nothin’ anyone can say
And I never did plan to go anyway
To Black Diamond Bay


The next to last song on Desire, Black Diamond Bay was inspired by & is a mixture of the Joseph Conrad novels 'Nostromo' & 'Victory'. It's certainly my favorite song on the album. The song was apparently worked on for a long time by Bob & jacques Levy and their aim was pretty specific:
'When we started to write the song there was this image of a mysterious woman on a veranda somewhere, with a Panama hat and a passport. Then there was that kind of slightly seedy hotel with a gambling room....After that, the thing began to open itself up to us...The sense that I was feeling was like in the movies, where they have all those jungle birds screeching loudly and you just know that there is some imminent danger...The desk clerk, well, he's straight out of a Sidney Greenstreet movie...That is what I was trying to achieve. The hotel is probably run by Humphrey Bogart; it is that kind of exotic setting.'
Jacques Levy

The beautiful twist & idea of the whole song at the end was inspired by an offhand comment from Levy to Bob:

'We were talking about the state of music at the time...and I made some kind of joke that instead of sympathy for the Devil, people had apathy for the Devil...All this stuff was happening around them and they paid almost no attention to it...That final verse was intended right from the beginning...Now I must confess that I didn't know exactly how to get there from the beginning but I had to get that apathy...To make the song work you have got to turn the corner and get into another place, and look at it from another view altogether.' Levy


It's one of my all time favorite Bob songs and one that stands as tall today within his body of work as any....

What do we all think of this one folks??? Why do you think he never performed it live?? I'm sure it would be a favorite from his fans???


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PostPosted: Tue September 25th, 2012, 20:44 GMT 
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This owes more to Arthur Hailey than Joseph Conrad. An airport novel plot, cheaply predictable ending, nice tune with pleasant Emmylou vocals. Not a patch on Lily, Rosemary And The Jack Of Hearts. And it's frankly offensive to compare it with Nostromo.

Dylan is a genius. Levy is not. Ergo collaborating with Levy was bound to drag Dylan down


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PostPosted: Tue September 25th, 2012, 21:18 GMT 
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This song was played on the RTR, at the same show as "Lily, Rosemary". A soundboard recording of that event exists, it just hasn't been discovered yet.

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PostPosted: Tue September 25th, 2012, 21:48 GMT 

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One of my top ten Dylan songs. Levy really pulled Dylan's song writing up a notch, disciplined his story-telling. Love how all the details fit together--none of this cut and paste obfuscation that really got rolling with songs like Don't Fall Apart on Me in the 1980's.

I also love the underlying, understated pathos in the song, the inevitable tragedy of existence. I was listening to it again last night--the phrasing in this song alone is transcendent. No one else but Dylan could have produced this song.

TV Talkin, Tweeter and Tempest are all variants thereon, but none better than this.


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PostPosted: Wed September 26th, 2012, 01:42 GMT 
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Warren Peace wrote:
A soundboard recording of that event exists, it just hasn't been discovered yet.

I misread that as, "A somewhat bad recording of that event...."

harmonica albert puts up with it--now that says something. Need I say again, Desire has wonderful production values; if the long winded songs bring you down, remember some of us little people would take this over "Sad Eyed Lady."


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PostPosted: Wed September 26th, 2012, 02:13 GMT 
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This tune kiiiills it! I relish any opportunity to show newcomers the transition between "Romance in Durango" and "Black Diamond Bay." This tune feels even more like a movie because it steals some of the momentum off the end of "Romance in Durango," like it was a previous scene. There aren't many tunes as addictive as this out there.

The vocal is sublime, the drumming and violin are out of this world, and the internal rhyming is beyond belief. What a climax to a record!

And a twist ending that ties together the whole album miraculously. Out of sight.


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PostPosted: Wed September 26th, 2012, 02:38 GMT 
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I love this song! Does anyone know if it's ever been performed live?
also, has anyone ever read "Cat's Cradle" by Vonnegut?


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PostPosted: Wed September 26th, 2012, 02:40 GMT 
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toilandblood wrote:
I love this song! Does anyone know if it's ever been performed live?
also, has anyone ever read "Cat's Cradle" by Vonnegut?


I think I read somewhere that it was recorded live in Salt Lake City on the Rolling Thunder Review, but that no known recordings exist.


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PostPosted: Sat September 29th, 2012, 02:51 GMT 
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Wait a second, does the praise for this track end here? Let's get this thing rolling, for crying out loud!

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PostPosted: Sat September 29th, 2012, 03:02 GMT 

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Brilliant narrative....great song


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PostPosted: Sat September 29th, 2012, 03:20 GMT 

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Great song, beautifully delivered vocal, exquisite violin, sly sense of humor, unexpected rhymes, goes on forever and never gets old. It's Joseph Conrad crossed with old Bogie--Key Largo in particular, and Casablanca--Peter Lorre would be great as the Greek, Ingrid Bergman the woman in the Panama hat. I won't say it's better than Lily, Rosemary etc., but it's a far cry better than Tempest, with texture, wit and, in a few swift strokes, character you can actually see and feel.

Hard to believe this kind of brilliance exists alongside the plodding, lugubrious Joey--and that BD has chosen to play that dud rather than this gem.


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PostPosted: Sat September 29th, 2012, 03:27 GMT 

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I've always liked Joey. Everything on Desire is great. Hurricane is a bit overrated though. But Black Diamond Bay stands out as a great song.


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PostPosted: Sat September 29th, 2012, 06:43 GMT 
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Beautiful song, one of my favourites. It was my favourite at one point.
This and One More Cup of Coffee got me into Bob Dylan.


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PostPosted: Sat September 29th, 2012, 08:16 GMT 
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One of his absolute masterpieces.


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PostPosted: Sat September 29th, 2012, 11:07 GMT 
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Loose Fur wrote:
toilandblood wrote:
I love this song! Does anyone know if it's ever been performed live?
also, has anyone ever read "Cat's Cradle" by Vonnegut?


I think I read somewhere that it was recorded live in Salt Lake City on the Rolling Thunder Review, but that no known recordings exist.

Correct. Reported to be played on 25 May 1976, the last RTR show which was in SLC. Although it shows up on none of the existing tapes, which, by the way, don't match one another set list wise anyhow.
It may be a myth, but as someone said, "I wanna believe."

Edit: just looked at the Dylan, Inc. site and they list it as the only time ever played, same date, 25 May 1976.


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PostPosted: Sat September 29th, 2012, 13:05 GMT 

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This song kind of bores me for some reason..


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PostPosted: Sat September 29th, 2012, 13:11 GMT 
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mjeff wrote:
This song kind of bores me for some reason..

Probably because Joliet is such an exciting place.


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PostPosted: Sun September 30th, 2012, 15:33 GMT 
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Still Go Barefoot wrote:
Correct. Reported to be played on 25 May 1976, the last RTR show which was in SLC. Although it shows up on none of the existing tapes, which, by the way, don't match one another set list wise anyhow.
It may be a myth, but as someone said, "I wanna believe."

Edit: just looked at the Dylan, Inc. site and they list it as the only time ever played, same date, 25 May 1976.


if only it were on record...


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PostPosted: Sun September 30th, 2012, 19:51 GMT 

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This is the only reason to listen to Desire.

Good song.


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PostPosted: Mon October 1st, 2012, 02:25 GMT 
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RichardW wrote:
This is the only reason to listen to Desire.

Good song.

Well, ONLY is a pretty strong and definitive word...one that I, personally, wouldn't apply to the above sentence.
My humble opinion, only.


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PostPosted: Tue October 30th, 2012, 04:36 GMT 
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RichardW wrote:
This is the only reason to listen to Desire.

Good song.


Yeah I don't know about that, but it's a great song.


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PostPosted: Tue October 30th, 2012, 04:45 GMT 
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I've always loved "Desire" and songs like this are the reason why. Absolutely tremendous


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PostPosted: Tue October 30th, 2012, 18:04 GMT 
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my favourite one from desire. great narrative.


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PostPosted: Tue October 30th, 2012, 23:13 GMT 
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My favourite 'Desire' track too, and in my top 5 Dylan songs. Not so sure about Salt Lake City though - the inclusion of this song was only mentioned in passing by one reporter at the time, and general opinion seems to be that he simply gave the wrong title to 'Romance in Durango'. What a silly-billy.


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PostPosted: Sat July 19th, 2014, 03:42 GMT 

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Just saw James Benning's famous experimental film 11 x 14 and I was surprised to hear "Black Diamond Bay" used prominently in the movie. Not just a clip, but the whole track, and not just once, but TWICE.

Reminds me of the time I saw one of Jean-Luc Godard's lauded experimental film, the one financed by a telecommunications company because they naïvely expected him to make a commercial, and he actually used Dylan's "When He Returns" prominently in the film. Makes me wonder how many great, underground films out there have used Dylan's records and in what manner?


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