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PostPosted: Wed February 29th, 2012, 01:11 GMT 

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I purchased an audio interface from the most unassuming of souls. He was a very quiet guy.
We got on the subject of the music business. Turns out he worked for Bob at the hit factory years ago. No, he didn't see Bob driving a red truck with his dog's head out the window. He worked in the studio with him. :) When I enquired more he said Bob was in outer space. You wouldn't understand what he was saying. He would mumble. He needed an interpreter to tell everyone what Bob wanted. I asked if this "interpreter" was bald with a mustache. He said yes. I said that was most likely Tony Garnier his bass player/ music director. When I hear stories like this I wonder if there are two different Bobs. After all, didn't Steve Jobs say Bob was smart as a tack when he met him? Bob didn't become a character of himself. I hear other stories about Bob being sharp and bright as well. Then I hear stories like this and I just wonder who the real Bob is. I believe the truth is this guy only perceived that Bob was in "outer space" because Bob was too busy talking with the band and deep in thought. He has nothing to prove to the guys in the sound room. I'm just blaming on. Sorry. :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Wed February 29th, 2012, 01:15 GMT 
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Have you read the ISIS Anthology book? Read the chapter called 'Psychosis of Dreams'. Get back afterwards and tell us what you think.

Personally, from experience, I'd say yes, there's definitely more than one.


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PostPosted: Wed February 29th, 2012, 01:56 GMT 
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Johanna Parker wrote:
Personally, from experience, I'd say yes, there's definitely more than one.

As can probably be said for each of us. After all, he's only human.


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PostPosted: Wed February 29th, 2012, 13:30 GMT 

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Johanna Parker wrote:
Have you read the ISIS Anthology book? Read the chapter called 'Psychosis of Dreams'. Get back afterwards and tell us what you think.

Personally, from experience, I'd say yes, there's definitely more than one.


I'll have to read that. Thanks. :)


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PostPosted: Wed February 29th, 2012, 13:46 GMT 

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it's all an act. at least it wouldn't be so bad if he acted talented


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PostPosted: Wed February 29th, 2012, 13:56 GMT 
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Aspergers


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PostPosted: Wed February 29th, 2012, 14:01 GMT 
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I didn't know you were a doctor, Ben. What exactly is your qualification?


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PostPosted: Wed February 29th, 2012, 14:12 GMT 
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You don't have to be a doctor to give a good advice BB should obay:

Whatever he is taking, he should take either more or less of it.


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PostPosted: Wed February 29th, 2012, 14:31 GMT 
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http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndrome

Notable people with Asperger syndrome

notable people who are known to have, or are suspected to have Asperger syndrome

Michael Jackson
Albert Einstein
Bill Gates
Alan Turing
Isaac Newton
Jane Austen
Henry Ford
Bob Dylan



People with Asperger syndrome:

may be sensitive to touch or loud noise
may be clumsy when walking or playing sports
may have trouble understanding other people's emotions
may have trouble recognizing facial expressions
may have trouble understanding when someone is joking or using language that is not accurate in meaning
may often have a loud voice, a very quiet voice, or a voice that does not express emotion (a "monotonous" voice)
often do not like changes in school, work, and home life routines
may learn to speak very early or very late
often learn to read very early or very late
may have trouble making friends
may have trouble understanding what other people are thinking
are often bullied in school
as children, might look shorter and younger than the average for their age
often have extremely good memory
often have a strong interest or hobby such as a computer game, sport statistics, or a TV show
may have difficulty understanding or not be interested in pretend play
may move in repetitive ways


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PostPosted: Wed February 29th, 2012, 14:45 GMT 
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wikipedia, huh? I guess it must be true then
3/4 of these things you have no way of knowing


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PostPosted: Wed February 29th, 2012, 14:48 GMT 
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or are suspected to have

This.
As a person with a mental disorder (not Asperger, another one) i can assure you that even two psychiaters who know you in person can have two diferent opinions about your diagnosis. Infortunately i don't know what Bob's psychiater thinks about it.


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PostPosted: Wed February 29th, 2012, 14:51 GMT 
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Infortunately i don't know what Bob's psychiater thinks about it.


I'm sure Benny would love to get Bob on the couch! :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed February 29th, 2012, 14:52 GMT 
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sonia golden hand wrote:
Bennyboy wrote:
or are suspected to have

This.
As a person with a mental disorder (not Asperger, another one) i can assure you that even two psychiaters who know you in person can have two diferent opinions about your diagnosis. Infortunately i don't know what Bob's psychiater thinks about it.


Sure, that goes without saying. I've been there too, my friend.

I have no proof that Bob Dylan has Aspergers, but I stick a tenner on it.

Johanna - why get so defensive? He's not your Dad and he aint your lover - as much as you might wish that to be the case.


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Johanna Parker wrote:
I'm sure Benny would love to get Bob on the couch! :lol:

or rather to give him some electroconvulsive therapy :evil:


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PostPosted: Wed February 29th, 2012, 14:57 GMT 
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I have no desire to ever meet Bob Dylan. And neither should you. Unfortunately, there are those here who have an unhealthy interest in him as a human being rather than an artist.


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PostPosted: Wed February 29th, 2012, 14:58 GMT 
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Bennyboy wrote:
I have no proof that Bob Dylan has Aspergers, but I stick a tenner on it.

Johanna - why get so defensive? He's not your Dad and he aint your lover - as much as you might wish that to be the case.


Of course he's not, but I care for him anyway. Spreading vague assumptions isn't exactly what I'm looking for. I made up my own mind on his condition a long time ago.


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PostPosted: Wed February 29th, 2012, 15:03 GMT 
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Johanna Parker wrote:
Bennyboy wrote:
I have no proof that Bob Dylan has Aspergers, but I stick a tenner on it.

Johanna - why get so defensive? He's not your Dad and he aint your lover - as much as you might wish that to be the case.


Of course he's not, but I care for him anyway. Spreading vague assumptions isn't exactly what I'm looking for. I made up my own mind on his condition a long time ago.


Its not a vague assumption my dear. You can't see the trees for Bob's wood.


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PostPosted: Wed February 29th, 2012, 15:14 GMT 
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Bennyboy wrote:
I have no desire to ever meet Bob Dylan. And neither should you. Unfortunately, there are those here who have an unhealthy interest in him as a human being rather than an artist.

You're right, i don't think him to be so agragable to meet. Almost all i've read about him "as a human being" is about problems he'd caused to other people near him.
But your remark hurts me because i've think of it. If Bob had been born now, could they cure him? And i think - yes, they could. They could make him a perfectly normal person, a square if that word is in use now. And, imo, people have right to be not a perfectly normal person.


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PostPosted: Wed February 29th, 2012, 15:15 GMT 

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Batty boy and Elmer in one thread?

Successful dylanego troll thread is successful!


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PostPosted: Wed February 29th, 2012, 15:16 GMT 
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wtf?
what does he need curing from?


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PostPosted: Wed February 29th, 2012, 15:18 GMT 
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Giada wrote:
wtf?
what does he need curing from?

From his genius, of course. It complicates the life a lot.


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PostPosted: Wed February 29th, 2012, 15:36 GMT 
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Bennyboy kindly provided us with a list of symptomes.

People with Asperger syndrome:

may be sensitive to touch or loud noise
sensitivity of touch, there have been no reports of this that I know of, so there's no indication for this
sensitivity of noise, well that'd be pretty impractical if you produce the 'loud noise' yourself on a regular basis


may be clumsy when walking or playing sports
does boxing, biking, swimming, golfing - no problems reported
did ice skating / ice hockey in youth - no problems reported
took part in dance sequence in recent promo video
walks just fine


may have trouble understanding other people's emotions
wrote countless songs interlinking his own emotions with those of others

may have trouble recognizing facial expressions
no known indication for this

may have trouble understanding when someone is joking or using language that is not accurate in meaning
uses metaphor like a champ, indicating he masters the concept

may often have a loud voice, a very quiet voice, or a voice that does not express emotion (a "monotonous" voice)
has all kinds of voices, non of them emotionless

often do not like changes in school, work, and home life routines
school - no problems reported
home life - no problems reported; no way of knowing current situation
routine / ritual elements in work (concerts), but arguably no more or less than in countless other jobs


may learn to speak very early or very late
often learn to read very early or very late
no reports / indication of either

may have trouble making friends
no indication of this in early life; may be careful who to trust since reaching fame for obvious reasons

I could go on, but it's useless. All in all, your argument fails.


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PostPosted: Wed February 29th, 2012, 15:40 GMT 
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Batty boy and Elmer in one thread?

Successful dylanego troll thread is successful!


jman! High five!


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PostPosted: Wed February 29th, 2012, 15:44 GMT 
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I was going to write you a love letter, Ben, but then I decided to take a photo in your honor:

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PostPosted: Wed February 29th, 2012, 16:50 GMT 
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Johanna Parker wrote:
sonia golden hand wrote:
Infortunately i don't know what Bob's psychiater thinks about it.


I'm sure Benny would love to get Bob on the couch! :lol:



I would too but for different reasons


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