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PostPosted: Mon January 23rd, 2017, 00:35 GMT 
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Any Dylan lyrics you've long held in your mind that turned out never to be correct?

In Tangled Up in Blue, Dylan sings,

"We drove that car as far as we could
Abandoned it out West
Split up on a dark sad night
Both agreeing it was best"

I've listened to this song many times in studio, outtake and live form, and have always heard it as: Split up on the docks at night. I only found out today that this was incorrect.

The saddest thing about it is that that line has always held such a strong image in my mind: after a month-long car road trip whilst in the throes of early lover, the two finally decide to leave it at that and walk away from one another on the docks out West on a cold and misty night. It turns out there's no location or event for this departing, and instead all we know is that it is a dark and sad night. I'm not saying one is better than the other; they both allow room for one's imagination to fill. If anything, it is Dylan's lyric that allows more freedom for the listener, but I think I will still hold onto my original misinterpretation.

What about y'all? Ever been tangled up in lyrics? The beautiful thing about Dylan is the shape-shifting quality of his lyrics: he'll chop and change lines throughout recordings, shows and his own printed lyric books. The songs are never finished and he allows us to impart our own meanings onto them.


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PostPosted: Mon January 23rd, 2017, 00:39 GMT 

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Hand to God...I heard the same thing as you, and your post was the first time I was made aware of that.


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PostPosted: Mon January 23rd, 2017, 00:41 GMT 
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Drake wrote:
Hand to God...I heard the same thing as you, and your post was the first time I was made aware of that.

Ha! Glad I'm not the only one. Will be interesting to see how many have been caught up on that line also.


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PostPosted: Mon January 23rd, 2017, 00:48 GMT 
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^ I have.

Never realized the "docks" line was incorrect until I read it here on another thread discussing the same thing.

On Meet Me In The Morning, instead of "56th & Wabasha" I thought it was something about a barbershop.

I generally don't have a hard time understanding Dylan in the 60's, but I get tripped up on his enunciation in a number of 70's songs.


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PostPosted: Mon January 23rd, 2017, 01:47 GMT 
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I thought the same about this line for a long time. And I still have trouble not hearing

"reformation shook it, broke it, then she hung it on the wall"

which seemed nicely nonsensical and also paired up with the Charles Darwin and the putting out of eyes etc.


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PostPosted: Mon January 23rd, 2017, 02:27 GMT 
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A-Z Lyrics uses that "reformation" line for High Water.

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"His voice it trembles as he calls out for another plate of food" incorrectly heard as "calls out for another to play the fool..."


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PostPosted: Mon January 23rd, 2017, 02:46 GMT 
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Drake wrote:
Hand to God...I heard the same thing as you, and your post was the first time I was made aware of that.


Same! Except I always assumed it was "Split up on the docks last night".


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PostPosted: Mon January 23rd, 2017, 02:54 GMT 

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This was what I thought it was for years! When I found out a while ago what it actually was....my world changed


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PostPosted: Mon January 23rd, 2017, 02:54 GMT 
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Ain't Talkin' wrote:
A-Z Lyrics uses that "reformation" line for High Water.





Really? Good!!!!


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PostPosted: Mon January 23rd, 2017, 04:54 GMT 
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I started off 40 years ago thinking it was "docks that night". In fact, I still picture people abandoning a dead car on the waterfront docks where the sailors all come in.


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PostPosted: Mon January 23rd, 2017, 05:30 GMT 

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Poor girls in the doorway, all giving me the eye

I was disappointed when I realized it was actually "Call girls." "Poor girls" says they're not just prostitutes, they've got lives, they've got histories that have led them here; it says he's able to feel sorry for someone other than himself; and it suggests a reason why his "heart's just not in it"--he knows their hearts aren't in it either, it won't make anyone feel better, let's just pass right on by.

I met the sons of doctors, I met the sons of light, in the bordertowns of despair.

I guess the real line is better. But I love the picture this one gives: the singer hanging out in a bar in some metaphysical Nuevo Laredo, while rich kids slumming it in their gap year moan to him about their spiritual emptiness.


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PostPosted: Mon January 23rd, 2017, 08:43 GMT 

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There was a thread on this a while back. see the link below for more examples :lol:


viewtopic.php?f=6&t=59059&hilit=misheard


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PostPosted: Mon January 23rd, 2017, 09:11 GMT 
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My sensitive manatee has gone down the train.


From that thread aaaahhhhhhhhhahaha I just laughed so damn hard.


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PostPosted: Mon January 23rd, 2017, 09:29 GMT 

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mystic garden wrote:
Drake wrote:
Hand to God...I heard the same thing as you, and your post was the first time I was made aware of that.

Ha! Glad I'm not the only one. Will be interesting to see how many have been caught up on that line also.


Count me in!


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PostPosted: Mon January 23rd, 2017, 10:53 GMT 
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I always thought it was 'split up on the docks at night' - the actual lyric is a bit limp and clichéd by comparison.

My two favourite misheard lines are both from Visions: 'seem's like the mirr'r' I thought for a long time was 'seems like Vermeer' - a much more interesting line than the clumsy contraction of mirror. (I read a piece in an art magazine once which was based on Dylan referencing Vermeer so I'm not the only one). And the other is 'the harmonicas play the skeleton keys and the rain' which I always thought was 'in the rain'.


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PostPosted: Mon January 23rd, 2017, 11:20 GMT 
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Stuart wrote:
My two favourite misheard lines are both from Visions: 'seem's like the mirr'r' I thought for a long time was 'seems like Vermeer' - a much more interesting line than the clumsy contraction of mirror. (I read a piece in an art magazine once which was based on Dylan referencing Vermeer so I'm not the only one). And the other is 'the harmonicas play the skeleton keys and the rain' which I always thought was 'in the rain'.

Woh woh woh, I have also always heard both those lines for Visions! What a shame Vermeer is dropped.


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PostPosted: Mon January 23rd, 2017, 11:59 GMT 
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"When the evening shatters/shadows and the stars appear" (I prefer the former/incorrect lyric)


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PostPosted: Mon January 23rd, 2017, 12:08 GMT 
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Bob himself misheard The Beatles "I can't hide I can't hide I can't hide" in I Want To Hold Your Hand as "I get high I get high I get high" and thought that was pretty cool.

Of course, marine mammals often cause lyrical confusion, from when Bob commemorates the unfortunate escape of his friendly and responsive pet in Not Dark Yet, "my sensitive manatee has gone down the drain". To the alarming news that "Your walrus hurt the one you love..."


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PostPosted: Mon January 23rd, 2017, 12:48 GMT 

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I have always heard "docks at night"

Still think it is, despite the transcripts , have we ever seen the handwritten lyric ?


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PostPosted: Mon January 23rd, 2017, 13:20 GMT 
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I always liked that 'whirlpool of lies' in Not Dark Yet. :P


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PostPosted: Mon January 23rd, 2017, 14:23 GMT 
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Gentlemen, he said I don't need your organization, I've shined your shoes
I've moved your mountains and parked your cars

Actually the whole song was full of misheard lyrics for me until I've read them properly.


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PostPosted: Mon January 23rd, 2017, 15:16 GMT 
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Johanna Parker wrote:
I always liked that 'whirlpool of lies' in Not Dark Yet. :P



"whirlpoo of lies" or "world full of lies", the whole line needs a re-writing now:

I've been down on the bottom of a world full of alternate facts
I ain't looking for nothing in anyone's slacks


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PostPosted: Mon January 23rd, 2017, 15:20 GMT 
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All the truths in the world add up to one big lie, man. No mishearings about that.


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PostPosted: Mon January 23rd, 2017, 15:42 GMT 

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listening to a boot of spirit once
instead of:
you burned your way into my heart
you got the key to my brain

i thought i heard:
you bend your ear to my heart
you gotta hear my brain


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PostPosted: Mon January 23rd, 2017, 20:12 GMT 
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I'm sure Bob has sung 'docks at night' in some live performances over the years.


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