Subject: Re: Annie Oakley and Belle Starr From: YVAY31A@prodigy.com (Mark Landis) Date: 2 Mar 1997 22:46:53 GMT >In 'Seeing the Real You At Last', Dylan sings: >'You could ride like Annie Oakley, >You could shoot like Belle Starr'. Annie Oakley (1860-1926) was born Phoebe Ann Moses in Darke County, Ohio. She was probably the greatest sharpshooter of all time, and was the inspiration for the 1935 movie, "Annie Oakley," starring Barbara Stanwyck, the Broadway musical, "Annie Get Your Gun," (also made into a movie starring Betty Hutton in 1950), and a 1950s television series starring Gail Davis. Annie Oakley traveled with circuses and shooting shows until 1885 when she joined Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show, ultimately performing before the British royal family, Prime Minister Gladstone, and a 12-year old named Winston Churchill. In Germany, she shot a cigarette out of the mouth of the crown prince who would become Kaiser Wilhelm. She suffered a number of ups and downs over the years, some related to a train wreck she survived, and another due to an automobile accident. Never really part of the Wild West herself, she represents something of a ficitonalized spirit of that time and place. It may or may not be relevant to Dylan's lyrics, but it was certainly Annie Oakley who was the great shooter, and more likely Belle Starr who was the great rider.
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 00:35:13 GMT Sender: The Bob Dylan Discussion List (HWY61-L@LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU) From: Man of Peace (firstname.lastname@example.org) Subject: Re: Annie Oakley and Belle Starr ... Somehow I find it strange that Dylan associates "riding skills" with Annie Oakley (who was famous for her SHOOTING SKILLS -- she's the subject of the musical "Annie Get Your Gun"), and "shooting skills" with Belle Starr (born Carthage, MO, Feb 5, 1848, died Feb 3, 1889), who was (most notably) the leader of a band of *horse-thieves* (with a $10,000 reward offered "dead and alive" for herself and her husband Sam Starr, the first female ever tried for a major crime by "Hanging Judge" Parker in Arkansas in 1883...). Intention? The Scobies to the front, please... -- Man of Peace "Roots, Routes and Ramblings" Dylan Home Page at http://yi.com/home/HelfertManfred (most up-to-date) and http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/manfredH/