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Yep!

Or else that pier in Blackpool is an exact copy of one in Norfolk, Virginia.

As with several other images he's shown, the issue is using the same cropping as someone else's photo.
http://greg.org/archive/2012/12/05/if_he_did_it.html
Remember that the Asia Series was presented as a tour documentary

Haha yes ER is the peanut gallery of semi-formed gut reactions
Warmuth always worth reading!

If this is art then what is a student painting based on a photograph?

Bob Dylan has had a fluid understanding of truth and property since at least '62. He was a vanguard, and far ahead of his time! Nowaddays one can base an administration on this kind of attitude...

I don't know. Ask Gaugin, Cezanne, Van Gogh, Lautrec and Degas.

http://www.fogonazos.es/2006/11/famous- ... hs_06.html

The "The Norfolk, Virginia Pier" painting which actually shows the "Blackpool, England (North) Pier" might be a veiled tribute to Gene Vincent who was born in Norfolk, Virginia and who stayed at a house in the North Shore area of Blackpool (near the North Pier) when playing the city in 1965.

It's art. If an artist paints a portrait are they stealing the image of the person they're painting? If Vermeer used a camera obscura is he no longer a great artist?

Anyone here who doesn't think it takes effort and skill to reproduce an image, be it from a photo or model, look up a pic or grab a friend and paint or draw whatever and let's see how you do.

This isn't a discussion about theft or fraud. It's a discussion between people who understand the creation of art and people who don't.

Exactly.

By 'student' painting i meant a painting by a hobbyist with no particular gift

It's not a very good photograph anyway. I think Bob could have improved it more. It just seems bereft of life. The sort of pier you want to jump off. where were the hardy fishermen? the leisurely people eating shrimp? the happy children on rollerskates?

I would like to see Bob paint a version of The Scream. That had a pier in it as I recall. or was it a bridge? A platform of some sort anyway. Dedicate it to all those musical acts who have ripped him off over the years.

That's EXACTLY right. It's easy to tell the people who have never created anything.

The trouble with his paintings from photographs is that they do appear quite lifeless. That quality or lack of was especially present in his New Orleans Series. I do admire his Drawn Blank Series, which have a much more original quality. There is nothing at all wrong with painting from photographs though. It would not be a discussion at all if he would not insist in presenting his pictures of views of places and scenes he has actually seen as painted.

Nobody feels any pain.

It is extremely difficult. I'm saying Bob's work has all the mediocre qualities of a student hobbyist (albeit on a more competent level than Ron Wood could ever muster), and as such his work would not be getting shown without his name attached.
Compare the transformation here to what bob does with photos.

Appear "quite lifeless" to whom? Certainly not to me.

This.


Has the Blackpool pier appeared in any films? Is there a site to look up film locations? I don't doubt him using that photo, but maybe it ties in with something else.

The pier is in a number of films. Hilda Fernhout, who found the Blackpool source photo, pointed out that it appears in Nowhere Boy, a biopic about John Lennon's teenage years. Hilda also pointed out Blackpool was where Dylan played "Roll On John" live for the first time.

https://soundcloud.com/cohenadmirer/bob ... -blackpool

Do we know where he got the couple from? Or is that, like, authentic creativity? ( )

Art is anything you can get away with, obviously.

To be fair, the couple do look similiar to Lennon and his mother(?) in the scene from Nowhere Boy. Same suit and red combination.

I thought he might have transfigured them, but that's just the colours really.