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PostPosted: Tue June 26th, 2012, 15:23 GMT 
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Poco with Ritchie Furay was always preferable.

Hear hear! Massively underrated group, that. I'm not quite so keen on A Good Feelin' to Know or Crazy Eyes (though individual tracks are still massive), but those first four records are all gems.

I've only heard "Legend" and a greatest hits comp, what should I get next? I love A Good Feelin' to Know, the song.


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PostPosted: Tue June 26th, 2012, 15:30 GMT 

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Joe Walsh wasn’t with them from the beginning though. Bernie Leadon and Randy Meisner were. Timothy B. Schmitt also joined later

The problem with the Eagles was that they had all the emotional depth that cocaine brings to the party, which is why Poco with Ritchie Furay was always preferable.

Joe Walsh should never be equated with Neil Young



thats right but they hit the big time when they added joe walsh, and moved into a more rock direction. joe walsh gave them the neil young factor it was a well thought out move. otherwise they would have languished in mcguinn hillman clark land. that is the official postion here at the WUM offices.[/quote]

joe walsh, a somewhat minor figure and no neil young, wasn't sufficient to overcome the emotional flatness and sterility that all that cocaine brought with it. they sound like an air conditioner

and commercial success doesn't necessarily equal quality


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TheGunfighter wrote:
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Hear hear! Massively underrated group, that. I'm not quite so keen on A Good Feelin' to Know or Crazy Eyes (though individual tracks are still massive), but those first four records are all gems.

I've only heard "Legend" and a greatest hits comp, what should I get next? I love A Good Feelin' to Know, the song.


the first album picking up the pieces (closest to buffalo springfield) or from the inside


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PostPosted: Tue June 26th, 2012, 15:47 GMT 
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joe walsh, a somewhat minor figure and no neil young, wasn't sufficient to overcome the emotional flatness and sterility that all that cocaine brought with it. they sound like an air conditioner

and commercial success doesn't necessarily equal quality


i dont know about him being a minor figure back in the day, the james gang had a rep back then.
i dont think they were aiming at quality, tho they had some, but at monetary success, which they were lacking prior to walsh signing up and them giving up the cowboy outfits and themes. no more david blue covers, a brand new direction.


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PostPosted: Tue June 26th, 2012, 16:11 GMT 

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joe walsh, a somewhat minor figure and no neil young, wasn't sufficient to overcome the emotional flatness and sterility that all that cocaine brought with it. they sound like an air conditioner

and commercial success doesn't necessarily equal quality


i dont know about him being a minor figure back in the day, the james gang had a rep back then.
i dont think they were aiming at quality, tho they had some, but at monetary success, which they were lacking prior to walsh signing up and them giving up the cowboy outfits and themes. no more david blue covers, a brand new direction.


walsh and the james gang, though known somewhat in certain circles for a brief time, never approached even the lower limits of the stratosphere. sometimes new directions don't lead anywhere.

that doesn't mean you can't like him; it just puts things in perspective. he is nowhere close to neil young. new kid in town, seriously.

they sold a lot of records pre-walsh


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PostPosted: Tue June 26th, 2012, 16:21 GMT 
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walsh and the james gang, though known somewhat in certain circles for a brief time, never approached even the lower limits of the stratosphere. sometimes new directions don't lead anywhere.

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that doesn't mean you can't like him; it just puts things in perspective. he is nowhere close to neil young. new kid in town, seriously

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james gang was pretty big during their time same basic level of fame that the eagles had then. big party band, saw them once myself.

joe walsh is no neil young but if neil is taken hes not a bad choice for the position of hard rocker in a soft rock band.


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goombay wrote:

james gang was pretty big during their time same basic level of fame that the eagles had then. big party band, saw them once myself.

joe walsh is no neil young but if neil is taken hes not a bad choice for the position of hard rocker in a soft rock band.


i would argue your first point; eagles much bigger even at that point than james gang ever had hopes of being. sales figures alone for eagles' first several albums and singles show that.

from wiki:

The James Gang was a rock band formed in Cleveland, Ohio in 1966. Though the band was not a huge commercial success, except in the Northeast Ohio area, the fame garnered by guitarist Joe Walsh has since made the group more notable.


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PostPosted: Tue June 26th, 2012, 16:46 GMT 
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Just in a lyric posting mood today, I guess...BTW is there a Dylan album we're talking about?

I have a mansion forget the price
Ain't never been there they tell me it's nice
I live in hotels tear out the walls
I have accountants pay for it all


They say I'm crazy but I have a good time
I'm just looking for clues at the scene of the crime
Life's been good to me so far


My Maserati does 185
I lost my license now I don't drive
I have a limo ride in the back
I lock the doors in case I'm attacked


I'm making records my fans they can't wait
They write me letters tell me I'm great
So I got me an office gold records on the wall
Just leave a message maybe I'll call


Lucky I'm sane after all I've been through
Everybody says I'm cool (He's cool)
I can't complain but sometimes I still do
Life's been good to me so far


I go to parties sometimes until four
It's hard to leave when you can't find the door
It's tough to handle this fortune and fame
Everybody's so different I haven't changed


They say I'm lazy but it takes all my time
Everybody says Oh yeah (Oh yeah)
I keep on going guess I'll never know why
Life's been good to me so far


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PostPosted: Tue June 26th, 2012, 17:01 GMT 
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Just in a lyric posting mood today, I guess...BTW is there a Dylan album we're talking about?


:lol: ...Yes, i believe we're talking about John Wesley Harding...in whose honor I post this
youtube..

8) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKfozyldDr8


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PostPosted: Tue June 26th, 2012, 17:05 GMT 

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smoke wrote:
Just in a lyric posting mood today, I guess...BTW is there a Dylan album we're talking about


just having a little discussion; have anything constructive to add? BTW are those Dylan lyrics?


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PostPosted: Tue June 26th, 2012, 17:24 GMT 
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rom wiki:

The James Gang was a rock band formed in Cleveland, Ohio in 1966. Though the band was not a huge commercial success, except in the Northeast Ohio area, the fame garnered by guitarist Joe Walsh has since made the group more notable.


wiki must have not been at the same shows i was. you dont get on atco by being big in NE Ohio.


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PostPosted: Tue June 26th, 2012, 17:25 GMT 

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btw here's the watchtower near new paltz

http://www.t3consortium.com/research/im ... p_Top4.jpg

http://www.t3consortium.com/research/im ... p_Top2.jpg

The structure, also known as “Sky Top Tower” was completed on August 30, 1921.


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PostPosted: Tue June 26th, 2012, 17:28 GMT 
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elmer wrote:
btw here's the watchtower near new paltz

http://www.t3consortium.com/research/im ... p_Top4.jpg



how much do they want for it.


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PostPosted: Tue June 26th, 2012, 17:32 GMT 

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goombay wrote:
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The James Gang was a rock band formed in Cleveland, Ohio in 1966. Though the band was not a huge commercial success, except in the Northeast Ohio area, the fame garnered by guitarist Joe Walsh has since made the group more notable.


wiki must have not been at the same shows i was. you dont get on atco by being big in NE Ohio.


they must have thought they could break them out on a larger front; like a lot of deals back then it didn't pan out


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PostPosted: Tue June 26th, 2012, 17:47 GMT 
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elmer wrote:
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Just in a lyric posting mood today, I guess...BTW is there a Dylan album we're talking about


just having a little discussion; have anything constructive to add? BTW are those Dylan lyrics?



They are Joe Walsh lyrics...you don't know that song? Turn on your local classic rock station - there's a 40% chance it's playing right now.


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PostPosted: Tue June 26th, 2012, 18:10 GMT 
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they must have thought they could break them out on a larger front; like a lot of deals back then it didn't pan out



dont pay no mind to the dream police. this a very learned discussion we are having. the james gang, atco records, country rock,
the byrds and the eagles. you would have to buy a book to learn this stuff and peeps are getting for free.


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PostPosted: Tue June 26th, 2012, 18:18 GMT 

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smoke wrote:
They are Joe Walsh lyrics...you don't know that song? Turn on your local classic rock station - there's a 40% chance it's playing right now.


don't ever listen to the radio, least of all classic rock


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PostPosted: Tue June 26th, 2012, 18:20 GMT 
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Here it is, elmer...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ38SeV3 ... re=related
Joe Walsh...Life's been Good to Me...

8) I like Neil Young alot more.


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PostPosted: Tue June 26th, 2012, 18:27 GMT 

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Queen Anne Lace wrote:
Here it is, elmer...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ38SeV3 ... re=related
Joe Walsh...Life's been Good to Me...

8) I like Neil Young alot more.


thanks; you shouldn't have though

most people do like young a lot more

ever read this: http://www.amazon.com/Are-You-Ready-Cou ... he+country


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PostPosted: Tue June 26th, 2012, 18:34 GMT 
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^ Haven't read it, but it looks interesting... thanks.


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PostPosted: Tue June 26th, 2012, 18:38 GMT 
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^ Haven't read it, but it looks interesting... thanks.


my vote for the best country rock piece is She Sang Hymns Out of Tune. the great Nilsson i believe did a version of it.


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PostPosted: Tue June 26th, 2012, 18:46 GMT 
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^^ Is this it, goombay?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EysR02zLGZ4

Man, I forgot all about Harry Nilsson! I had an album of his back in the 70's ...i think it
was him singing old standards, but i'm not sure about that.
...that was a good song he wrote for Midnight Cowboy... 8)


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PostPosted: Tue June 26th, 2012, 19:00 GMT 
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Queen Anne Lace wrote:
^^ Is this it, goombay?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EysR02zLGZ4

Man, I forgot all about Harry Nilsson! I had an album of his back in the 70's ...i think it
was him singing old standards, but i'm not sure about that.
...that was a good song he wrote for Midnight Cowboy... 8)



the video wont play but yes thats probably it. its a country rock standard but i prefer the Nilssons version. i love nilsson, he got tore up for his music on popeye but i love the music for that made it one of my fav movies of all times. and the point is by far my fav non ninja cartoon.

Everybodys Talkin, written by the late great Fred Neil, from Midnight Cowboy.


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PostPosted: Tue June 26th, 2012, 19:01 GMT 

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goombay wrote:
Queen Anne Lace wrote:
^ Haven't read it, but it looks interesting... thanks.


my vote for the best country rock piece is She Sang Hymns Out of Tune. the great Nilsson i believe did a version of it.


i'd have to go with the legendary dillards' version on their groundbreaking wheatstraw suite, which also contains great versions of i've just seen face and reason to believe. all he way from salem, missouri, near the head waters of the current river in the beautiful ozark mountains


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PostPosted: Tue June 26th, 2012, 19:03 GMT 

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goombay wrote:
Queen Anne Lace wrote:
^^ Is this it, goombay?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EysR02zLGZ4

Man, I forgot all about Harry Nilsson! I had an album of his back in the 70's ...i think it
was him singing old standards, but i'm not sure about that.
...that was a good song he wrote for Midnight Cowboy... 8)



Everybodys Talkin, written by the late great Fred Neil


lay lady lay was written for that movie but not used. it was then rejected by the everly brothers who finally did it on EB 84


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