ModBob quartet Track 5

chauncey · **Joined:** Wed January 28th, 2009, 15:52 GMT **Posts:** 50

So this one is more difficult. But it is time to focus on the fact that we are comparing the 4 studio versions not asking which is the greatest song - in which case Tryin would probably win. But it doesn't get my vote, the arrangement here or the voice just don't work. In fact, Dylan sounds pissed (drunk). If he'd used the autumn (fall) 2000 arrangement which worked so well...

Forgetful Heart is also a great song, but the album version feels rushed. The live debut was stunning and demonstrated the song's majesty.

Someday Baby has a mediocre Muddy Waters thing going on, but the outtake on TTS was extraordinary.

The only truly successful studio version here for Track 5 is Lonesome Day Blues, where the ghost of Howlin Wolf gargles razor blades. Great stuff.

Bennyboy

chauncey wrote:

So this one is more difficult. But it is time to focus on the fact that we are comparing the 4 studio versions not asking which is the greatest song - in which case Tryin would probably win. But it doesn't get my vote, the arrangement here or the voice just don't work. In fact, Dylan sounds pissed (drunk). If he'd used the autumn (fall) 2000 arrangement which worked so well...

Forgetful Heart is also a great song, but the album version feels rushed. The live debut was stunning and demonstrated the song's majesty.

Someday Baby has a mediocre Muddy Waters thing going on, but the outtake on TTS was extraordinary.

The only truly successful studio version here for Track 5 is Lonesome Day Blues, where the ghost of Howlin Wolf gargles razor blades. Great stuff.

Yes, Lonesome Day Blues is easily the best song, even if the lyrics are complete bollocks. Dylan at least sings the thing with bite and venom and the band have the common sense to play Leopard Skin Pill Box Hat behind him.

Trying To Get To Heaven is probably the biggest dropped ball of the released TooM - imagine how good that could have sounded compared to the pissweak version they put out. That lessthanonenotedroneofaharmonicasolo alone earns Lanois a kick in the nads for not manning up to Dylan and saying "Bob, you're taking the piss, right?'

Someday Baby is plain old arse - boring dribbly bottom water of a song. The TTS outtake was ok except 4 times too long.

Forgetful Heart was ok but mastered too loud on TTL compared to the other tracks. Might seem like a minor quibble, but its a major ballache. Otherwise, nice enough little song but nothing that the Bob Dylan of olden days couldnt have tossed off between lines.... If he does it nicely live, thats more testament to it being a slow arrangement and having only 8 words than it is to his being able to sing properly or it being a great song.

Troubadour64

One word....'mowa'. (more)

gibsona07

Lonesome Day Blues might be my favourite thing ever, it's just x badass.

raging_glory

I think I agree with you, gibsona.

Lonesome Day Blues makes my head feel like it is going to explode every time I listen to it.

Troubadour64

raging_glory wrote:

I think I agree with you, gibsona.

Lonesome Day Blues makes my head feel like it is going to explode every time I listen to it, LIVE

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to this end, I agree

raging_glory

I've never heard it live (or anything. YET) I would be ecstatic if he played this at my first show!

btw, I absolutely LOVE his vocals on this album. Seriously.

Troubadour64

the great live renditions, like Cry Awhile, are passed.

check out some of these if you can get your hands on them:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=57723&hilit=lonesome+day+blues

this thread made me laugh ... this goes back to when ER waters really were dangerously rough...:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=49487&hilit=lonesome+day+blues

Troubadour64

i'd also like to go on record here saying, i haven't enjoyed a live performance of Forgetful Heart more so than on the album....if someone would like to recommend a performance, i'm all ears.

Bennyboy

Saw/heard him do LDB live once - at Docklands, 2002.

It was pretty good - sounded like the song, leastways.

arthurprecarious

raging_glory wrote:

I think I agree with you, gibsona.

Lonesome Day Blues makes my head feel like it is going to explode every time I listen to it.

It does that to me too - but not in a good way!

raging_glory

Troubadour64 wrote:

the great live renditions, like Cry Awhile, are passed.

check out some of these if you can get you hands on them:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=57723&hilit=lonesome+day+blues

this thread made me laugh ... this goes back to when ER waters really were dangerously rough...:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=49487&hilit=lonesome+day+blues

Thanks!

gah...none of the links in that thread are valid :evil:

The entire Rochester show is also gone also :cry:

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=66778&hilit=rochester+november

This Toronto show, however, is still working so I'm downloading the first one now.
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=69016&p=1125288&hilit=march+toronto+04#p1125288

goombay · **Joined:** Sat April 18th, 2009, 22:24 GMT **Posts:** 4485

chauncey wrote:

So this one is more difficult. But it is time to focus on the fact that we are comparing the 4 studio versions not asking which is the greatest song - in which case Tryin would probably win. But it doesn't get my vote, the arrangement here or the voice just don't work. In fact, Dylan sounds pissed (drunk). If he'd used the autumn (fall) 2000 arrangement which worked so well...

Forgetful Heart is also a great song, but the album version feels rushed. The live debut was stunning and demonstrated the song's majesty.

Someday Baby has a mediocre Muddy Waters thing going on, but the outtake on TTS was extraordinary.

The only truly successful studio version here for Track 5 is Lonesome Day Blues, where the ghost of Howlin Wolf gargles razor blades. Great stuff.

trying to get to heaven. hands down. just when you thought youve lost everything........

Troubadour64

Bennyboy wrote:

Saw/heard him do LDB live once - at Docklands, 2002.

It was pretty good - sounded like the song, leastways.

Today I drink Champagne!!!

EDIT: who will stand forward and fistbump me for picking Someday Baby?

Bennyboy

Troubadour64 wrote:

Bennyboy wrote:

Saw/heard him do LDB live once - at Docklands, 2002.

It was pretty good - sounded like the song, leastways.

Today I drink Champagne!!!

EDIT: who will stand forward and fistbump me for picking Someday Baby?

Um, yeah, is it news that I used to follow live Dylan? Even back in 2009, while undergoing my complete mental breakdown, I thought he was still worth listening to.

That, of course, swiftly changed as my healing cells regenerated and sense returned. But back in 2002, and in spite of the appearance of the upsinging nonsense, he could still put on a decent spread....

Troubadour64

no, not news, but any day that you are bold enough to disclose that information and appear civil and balanced is a day worth celebrating!!!

i have a compilation you made in 2009. it's pretty sweet. (he did have some good singing moments that tour). that's the year i came back after about a 4 year hiatus. i was on the Last Violin Tour prior to that, and before that the Zevon Cover Tour (i have my own names for them) and i tragically regret missing the last great period - the Turn of the Century Years...

Bennyboy

Troubadour64 wrote:

no, not news, but any day that you are bold enough to disclose that information and appear civil and balanced is a day worth celebrating!!!

i have a compilation you made in 2009. it's pretty sweet. (he did have some good singing moments that tour). that's the year i came back after about a 4 year hiatus. i was on the Last Violin Tour prior to that, and before that the Zevon Cover Tour (i have my own names for them) and i tragically regret missing the last great period - the Turn of the Century Years...

Maybe one day I will have the strength to face my demons and listen to that comp again.

Heartbreak Hotel indeed.

So, you didnt get to see him in 2000? Man, those 2 Wembley shows, pheweee....last time the old git repaid my ticket cost.

Lone Pilgrim

'Lonseome Day Blues' by some distance.

Troubadour64

i'm still slapping myself on the wrist for diverting all my tour funds towards this scene (of course i was still into having company at the concerts i went to, so it's not entirely my fault - nobody would go to see dylan!):

Giada · **Joined:** Wed May 11th, 2011, 06:31 GMT **Posts:** 4668

uh, what is that?

raging_glory

The last picture looks like several men sitting on/in a giant hot dog. Please tell me I am seeing that wrong.

GuillemTM

1. Forgetful heart
2. Someday baby
3. Lonesome day blues
4. Tryin' to get to heaven

(my points, 4 for 1st-3 for 2nd-2 for 3rd-1 for 4th: TOOM-13; TTL-13; L&T-12; MT-12)

Troubadour64

raging_glory wrote:

The last picture looks like several men sitting on/in a giant hot dog. Please tell me I am seeing that wrong.

yes four men in a hot dog, spot on! - that hot dog is also in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdK0fO_N ... re=related

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ph ... r_versions

they were riding the hot dog to the stage for a performance that was to begin at midnight and continued until 7am...portopotties were on stage....

Giada · **Joined:** Wed May 11th, 2011, 06:31 GMT **Posts:** 4668

chauncey · **Joined:** Wed January 28th, 2009, 15:52 GMT **Posts:** 50

Geez LDB is on 35%!

Dylan was fantastic around 2000. Saw him in Cardiff. Stood at the front, beaming with joy for the entire gig. Tryin to Get to Heaven knocked me out at this show.

Expecting Rain

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