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Which song do you prefer?
Goin' To Acapulco 35%  35%  [ 16 ]
I Dreamed I Saw St. Augustine 65%  65%  [ 30 ]
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PostPosted: Mon January 29th, 2018, 13:34 GMT 

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Two songs based on the same melody, and I'm curious to know which you prefer.

I definitely prefer Goin' to Acapulco. I prefer Dylan's vocals here, and backing track by the Band is very strong. One of the most remarkable thing about this song is that organ - I really love it.

I Dreamed I Saw St. Augustine is fine, but that's about it for me.


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PostPosted: Mon January 29th, 2018, 14:16 GMT 
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Never thought about the melody being the same, Acapulco is a more exciting performance (JWH being fairly austere to start with) but Augustine's lyric is hard to beat.


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PostPosted: Mon January 29th, 2018, 14:36 GMT 

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Based on the same melody !?

You mean " Joe Hill " !?

" Going to Acapulco " is different but " I dreamed I saw St. Augustine " is nearly the same as " Joe Hill. "


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PostPosted: Mon January 29th, 2018, 14:36 GMT 
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2 wonderful tracks.
Can´t choose between the 2


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PostPosted: Mon January 29th, 2018, 14:45 GMT 
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St. Augustine. Can’t beat those lyrics.


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PostPosted: Mon January 29th, 2018, 18:26 GMT 
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St. Augustine. Can’t beat those lyrics.


True, Augustine is indubitably the 'better' song, but Acapulco is funner.


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PostPosted: Mon January 29th, 2018, 20:11 GMT 

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115th wrote:
Based on the same melody !?

You mean " Joe Hill " !?

" Going to Acapulco " is different but " I dreamed I saw St. Augustine " is nearly the same as " Joe Hill. "


If by "nearly the same" you mean "nothing like," then I have to agree with you, and thanks for pointing it out. The melody, I mean; obviously Dylan is recalling the lyrics of "Joe Hill."

"St. Augustine" and "Acapulco" do have similar melodies. But one that's much closer to "Augustine" is another song from 1967, "Edge of the Ocean." The melodies are so similar that it's tempting to think of "Edge of the Ocean" as a first draft of "I Dreamed I Saw St. Augustine," before he knew it was about St. Augustine. There's even a small lyric connection--". . . against my window / I leaned my head today" and "I put my fingers against the glass / And bowed my head and cried."


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PostPosted: Mon January 29th, 2018, 21:23 GMT 
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Watamushi wrote:
Two songs based on the same melody, and I'm curious to know which you prefer.

I definitely prefer Goin' to Acapulco. I prefer Dylan's vocals here, and backing track by the Band is very strong. One of the most remarkable thing about this song is that organ - I really love it.

I Dreamed I Saw St. Augustine is fine, but that's about it for me.



Two songs based on..which melody? Do you mean they both sound similar? I don't really see that, they are dissimilar from one another, imo.

St Augustine is my preference. Half the lyrics to Acapulco are nonsense, and likely refers to some sort of brothel/prostitute. The singer talks about pumping on it some, blowing his plum, waiting for me to come..


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PostPosted: Mon January 29th, 2018, 22:32 GMT 
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Definitely Acapulco.

The lyrics, vocal melody and backing tracks are all preferable.


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PostPosted: Tue January 30th, 2018, 05:32 GMT 

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dylanswife wrote:
Watamushi wrote:
Two songs based on the same melody, and I'm curious to know which you prefer.

I definitely prefer Goin' to Acapulco. I prefer Dylan's vocals here, and backing track by the Band is very strong. One of the most remarkable thing about this song is that organ - I really love it.

I Dreamed I Saw St. Augustine is fine, but that's about it for me.



Two songs based on..which melody? Do you mean they both sound similar? I don't really see that, they are dissimilar from one another, imo.
Well, I meant basical melody of "I Dreamed I Saw St. Augustine" is very similar to that of "Goin' To Acapulco", which I read somewhere - I thought it was mentioned on Wikipedia, but I couldn't see that now - but I can hear the similarity with my ears.


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PostPosted: Tue January 30th, 2018, 09:10 GMT 

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mojofilter wrote:
115th wrote:
Based on the same melody !?

You mean " Joe Hill " !?

" Going to Acapulco " is different but " I dreamed I saw St. Augustine " is nearly the same as " Joe Hill. "


If by "nearly the same" you mean "nothing like," then I have to agree with you, and thanks for pointing it out. The melody, I mean; obviously Dylan is recalling the lyrics of "Joe Hill."

"St. Augustine" and "Acapulco" do have similar melodies. But one that's much closer to "Augustine" is another song from 1967, "Edge of the Ocean." The melodies are so similar that it's tempting to think of "Edge of the Ocean" as a first draft of "I Dreamed I Saw St. Augustine," before he knew it was about St. Augustine. There's even a small lyric connection--". . . against my window / I leaned my head today" and "I put my fingers against the glass / And bowed my head and cried."


It´s a little bit different, just a little bit.


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PostPosted: Wed January 31st, 2018, 22:30 GMT 
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I prefer Goin' to Acapulco


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PostPosted: Thu February 1st, 2018, 01:53 GMT 
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now if someone offers me a joke
I just say no thanks

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I dreamed I saw St Augustine
alive as you or me


14 syllables.


The chord changes and the lyrics are more interesting in Acapulco. I like it's grittiness, the presence of the guys who would become The Band. Still, I'm glad Robertson recognized that his guitar was not needed on the JWH tracks. I love that stripped down Charlie McCoy band for those songs.


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PostPosted: Thu February 1st, 2018, 03:30 GMT 
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Their differences lie in that "I Dreamed I Saw St. Augustine" deals with the aspect and moment of the beatific vision whilst "Goin' to Acapulco" deals with the living, breathing aspect of the vision itself, the Word become flesh.


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PostPosted: Thu February 1st, 2018, 04:41 GMT 

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Never really thought about comparing the two, but Augustine in a landslide for me. All other comments taken into consideration, I also want to give a shout out to its lovely callback to "I Dreamed I Saw Joe Hill Last Night" which I view as one of the finest protest songs ever penned (and a winking contrast to the content of Dylan's song).


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PostPosted: Thu February 1st, 2018, 06:50 GMT 
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'..Acapulco', of course, if you have ears that work. One of his top songs.


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Ghost Of Lectricity wrote:
now if someone offers me a joke
I just say no thanks

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I dreamed I saw St Augustine
alive as you or me


14 syllables.


The chord changes and the lyrics are more interesting in Acapulco. I like it's grittiness, the presence of the guys who would become The Band. Still, I'm glad Robertson recognized that his guitar was not needed on the JWH tracks. I love that stripped down Charlie McCoy band for those songs.
I would love to have heard JWH with Garth and Robbie overdubs. If they hurry they could still do it.


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mjmooney wrote:
Ghost Of Lectricity wrote:
now if someone offers me a joke
I just say no thanks

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I dreamed I saw St Augustine
alive as you or me


14 syllables.


The chord changes and the lyrics are more interesting in Acapulco. I like it's grittiness, the presence of the guys who would become The Band. Still, I'm glad Robertson recognized that his guitar was not needed on the JWH tracks. I love that stripped down Charlie McCoy band for those songs.
I would love to have heard JWH with Garth and Robbie overdubs. If they hurry they could still do it.

Ha!
Yeah. Me, too. But I would still want the other version as well. Watchtower on JWH is perfect for me. No lead instruments other than harmonica and voice. It doesn't need it. Besides, Hendrix served up the big guitar arrangement for it quickly enough. I do wish they would have played it at Isle Of Wight. It would be interesting to hear The Band playing on that song in 1969.


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