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PostPosted: Mon October 30th, 2017, 05:20 GMT 

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I am trying to find the worth. I own a bottle numbered 2 out of only 10 released of 1998 Beringer Founders Estate Chardonnay Bob Dylan Wine. I can't seem to find information. Any ideas on where to find it's value or other collectors. I would love to find one or all of the other bottles to add to the one that I have


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PostPosted: Mon October 30th, 2017, 11:51 GMT 
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shirleymschmidt wrote:
I am trying to find the worth.


I don’t know.
IMHO, it seems better to just drink it & enjoy it for what it is, rather than view it as an investment.
And that’s from someone who doesn’t even even drink wine!
(Unless it’s the only thing available)

Anyhow, welcome to ER!
Good luck!


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PostPosted: Mon October 30th, 2017, 12:34 GMT 
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Still Go Barefoot wrote:
IMHO, it seems better to just drink it & enjoy it for what it is


Chardonay older than three years? You must be kiddin', I'm sure you wouldn't enjoy it.

shirleymschmidt wrote:
I am trying to find the worth. I own a bottle numbered 2 out of only 10 released of 1998 Beringer Founders Estate Chardonnay Bob Dylan Wine. I can't seem to find information. Any ideas on where to find it's value or other collectors. I would love to find one or all of the other bottles to add to the one that I have


Far too old to drink.

The label might be worth a few bucks.


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PostPosted: Mon October 30th, 2017, 15:56 GMT 
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It's just a bottle of bread


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PostPosted: Tue October 31st, 2017, 13:26 GMT 

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I got a bottle of 2003 Planet Waves. My plan has been to archive it until the day Dylan dies then drink it.


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PostPosted: Tue October 31st, 2017, 21:40 GMT 

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I'd kind of like to collect all 10. And it's more like almost ten year old Chardonnay. It came out in 98. No way I'd drink it lol. I like to collect memorabilia. Hoping to find bottles #1 and then 3-10. It'd be a pretty cool collection.


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PostPosted: Tue October 31st, 2017, 22:55 GMT 
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Not knowing wine...so probably a dumb Q...

Why is 1998 Chardonnay too old to drink?
I thought it was the older, the better with wine.


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PostPosted: Thu November 2nd, 2017, 21:40 GMT 

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I actually meant it's close to a twenty year old bottle of wine. Stuff like this that is super rare are also super expensive. I'm a collector so I have seen some things go for crazy prices. That's why I want to find the other 9 bottles (If it's in my price range). I actually called the winery that made it and they were blown away that I had a bottle. A specialist is supposed to contact me in a week or so.


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PostPosted: Thu November 2nd, 2017, 22:50 GMT 
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so all those 20+ year old wine bottles in my root cellar, ahem, wine cellar are better than they were when people gave them to me?


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PostPosted: Thu November 2nd, 2017, 23:30 GMT 
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I have two but I don't think they are numbered. One has his pic from Self Portrait and I forget what the other one is; like Greatest Hits 3 or Bootleg Series 3 pic.


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PostPosted: Fri November 3rd, 2017, 13:44 GMT 
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Silliness taken to the limit.

IMO:

If you're gonna collect wine, then collect good wine. The kind you can open and drink one day.

If you're gonna collect Dylan, collect his art or his artifacts. Don't collect bottles of bad wine with Dylan on the label.


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PostPosted: Fri November 3rd, 2017, 16:48 GMT 
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Still Go Barefoot wrote:
so all those 20+ year old wine bottles in my root cellar, ahem, wine cellar are better than they were when people gave them to me?


There is no easy answer to your question. You should start with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aging_of_wine

Basically it depends on the type of wine (some quickly become vinegar) and the conditions in which it is stored (if you don't have a cool cellar with almost equal temperature in Winter and Summer then forget about it). And even a very expensive wine with right conservation history may turn "passed" when you open it. It's quite a "living" substance...


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PostPosted: Fri November 3rd, 2017, 20:39 GMT 
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JeffreyLeePierre wrote:
Still Go Barefoot wrote:
so all those 20+ year old wine bottles in my root cellar, ahem, wine cellar are better than they were when people gave them to me?


There is no easy answer to your question. You should start with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aging_of_wine

Basically it depends on the type of wine (some quickly become vinegar) and the conditions in which it is stored (if you don't have a cool cellar with almost equal temperature in Winter and Summer then forget about it). And even a very expensive wine with right conservation history may turn "passed" when you open it. It's quite a "living" substance...

I'm thinking about putting Dylan album cover stickers on each one but not sure if that will increase or decrease each bottle's value.


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PostPosted: Fri November 3rd, 2017, 21:37 GMT 
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I'm not into this Bob Dylan wine idea, I think it's stupid. But if he puts his name on a cannabis product I will buy it.


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PostPosted: Sat November 4th, 2017, 20:01 GMT 

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TOOM wrote:
I have two but I don't think they are numbered. One has his pic from Self Portrait and I forget what the other one is; like Greatest Hits 3 or Bootleg Series 3 pic.


They would be numbered on the back of the label if it is the same series I have.


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PostPosted: Sat November 4th, 2017, 20:04 GMT 

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Winter Lude wrote:
Silliness taken to the limit.

IMO:

If you're gonna collect wine, then collect good wine. The kind you can open and drink one day.

If you're gonna collect Dylan, collect his art or his artifacts. Don't collect bottles of bad wine with Dylan on the label.




I have plenty of his art and artifacts. This is quite rare. The kind of person Dylan is he probably had ten bottles made and spread them around the world just to see what would happen. He probably even owns half of them. Who knows. I do know however that this is a beyond interesting piece. All collectors know that if it is a worthy piece it's worth a lot. If it's numbered....it's worth even more. So hardly silliness taken to the limit.


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PostPosted: Sun November 5th, 2017, 15:13 GMT 

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just out of interest, where did you buy it from?


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PostPosted: Sun November 5th, 2017, 15:58 GMT 

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Winter Lude wrote:
I'm not into this Bob Dylan wine idea, I think it's stupid. But if he puts his name on a cannabis product I will buy it.

Ha, me too! Blind Boy Blunts!


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PostPosted: Sun November 5th, 2017, 16:31 GMT 
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shirleymschmidt wrote:


I have plenty of his art and artifacts. This is quite rare. The kind of person Dylan is he probably had ten bottles made and spread them around the world just to see what would happen. He probably even owns half of them. Who knows. I do know however that this is a beyond interesting piece. All collectors know that if it is a worthy piece it's worth a lot. If it's numbered....it's worth even more. So hardly silliness taken to the limit.


The kind of person Dylan is, he probably doesn't care about the wine, has never tried it and has none of it stuffed away. If you asked him about it today, he would say he's never heard of it, and then he'd vaguely remember and say he heard it wasn't any good. His entire involvement was sitting through a 20 minute meeting 15 years ago.


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PostPosted: Sun November 5th, 2017, 17:37 GMT 
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Not much on it. There's this but it's not much.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R ... e&_sacat=0

I don't think it's quality wine, just one of those regular tieins that don't ad up to nothing but a paycheck. The sad American president has his own wine and he's a teetotaler. He should probably drink more.


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