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PostPosted: Tue October 24th, 2017, 16:12 GMT 
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Thread's making my Xmas card list so much more manageable.


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PostPosted: Tue October 24th, 2017, 17:39 GMT 

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Nightingale's Code wrote:
Mozambique isn't much of a song, but let's not go overboard and discount Desire as a whole.


I don't even like the shows from 1975...


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PostPosted: Tue October 24th, 2017, 18:42 GMT 

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kind of hard to follow-up BLOOD ON THE TRACKS...but Dylan took a new direction..added a violin(scarlet!!)...co-wrote a couple of songs....launched a cause(Hurricane)....began THE ROLLING THUNDER REVUE..
so, say what you will, and think what you may...
DESIRE was the start of many things to follow...
glad to say, i was at MSG, THE NIGHT OF THE HURRICANE
along with the GREATEST...MUHAMMED ALI...and some guy that was running for president( Jimmy Carter)
need i say...a good time was had by all!


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PostPosted: Tue October 24th, 2017, 19:18 GMT 

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LUCKY wrote:
kind of hard to follow-up BLOOD ON THE TRACKS...but Dylan took a new direction..added a violin(scarlet!!)...co-wrote a couple of songs....launched a cause(Hurricane)....began THE ROLLING THUNDER REVUE..
so, say what you will, and think what you may...
DESIRE was the start of many things to follow...
glad to say, i was at MSG, THE NIGHT OF THE HURRICANE
along with the GREATEST...MUHAMMED ALI...and some guy that was running for president( Jimmy Carter)
need i say...a good time was had by all!

I don't think Desire can be shifted in its position among album favourites.
Look for instance at this poll from this site :)
http://www.expectingrain.com/discussion ... 32a6a2a213


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PostPosted: Tue October 24th, 2017, 19:44 GMT 

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I've never liked Desire and never will.

Songs like "Mozambique" are a very good reason to dislike this album. If it is a satire, it is a very weak one and inappropriate about a country torn apart by civil war.

"Ho ho ho", sing the wealthy Americans, "Isn't civil war and poverty funny?" and "Isnt that a funny name for a country, ho ho ho".

Dylan's moral sense was on leave when this album was made. What on earth was going on in his head when he wrote "Joey"? Is that also a satire?
"Joey. What made them want to come and blow you away?"
Er, Bob, he was a psychopath. Really good reasons to want to blow him away. Only shock - it didn't happen sooner.

Silly silly album. The drop in quality from Blood on the Tracks is almost unbelievable.

The only good song on Desire is "Black Diamond Bay". One or two others come to life live, but most are simply embarrassing.

"Sara, Whatever made you want to change your mind"
Well Bob, the womanising was a major part of it.

"Street-Legal" is better but only because there are twice as many decent songs on it, i.e. two.


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PostPosted: Tue October 24th, 2017, 20:14 GMT 
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Sometimes I wish I could un-read some of the stuff I read here :|


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PostPosted: Tue October 24th, 2017, 20:28 GMT 
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RichardW wrote:
"Street-Legal" is better but only because there are twice as many decent songs on it, i.e. two.


The thing you fail to mention about Desire is the performances on it are really some of the best of Dylan's recorded career. His voice sounds better than it would ever sound again and his phrasing is incredible. The vocal degradation we hear on Street-Legal is significant.


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PostPosted: Tue October 24th, 2017, 20:33 GMT 

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wormington wrote:
Sometimes I wish I could un-read some of the stuff I read here :|

Tell me bout it. Death of the brain cells (in the readers, that is)


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PostPosted: Tue October 24th, 2017, 22:01 GMT 
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Ragging on Desire? My only complaint is that he didn't stick with that vibe for a couple more albums. Acoustic guitar, harmonica, bass and drums. Give or take violin. Single harmony female vocal. It's too bad Bob didn't take this approach in the 80's instead of trying to keep up with the times. Street-legal brought us the burnt pretzel voice and the gospel ladies. It went down hill from there. Damn.. he had such a great thing going with Desire and RTR.


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PostPosted: Tue October 24th, 2017, 22:14 GMT 
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Agreed, Desire is great and shows Dylan’s voice in peak form. Save the complaining for the “Why Triplicate Is Better Than You Think” thread.


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PostPosted: Tue October 24th, 2017, 23:13 GMT 
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yopietro wrote:
The thing you fail to mention about Desire is the performances on it are really some of the best of Dylan's recorded career. His voice sounds better than it would ever sound again and his phrasing is incredible. The vocal degradation we hear on Street-Legal is significant.

This is correct. His voice is fabulous on the record, just its peak.


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PostPosted: Wed October 25th, 2017, 03:04 GMT 
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wormington wrote:
Sometimes I wish I could un-read some of the stuff I read here :|


After this thread and then the other one where I read that "Shot Of Love" was Bob ragging on John Lennon's murder, Im really just :roll:


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PostPosted: Wed October 25th, 2017, 03:49 GMT 
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Nightingale's Code wrote:
Agreed, Desire is great and shows Dylan’s voice in peak form. Save the complaining for the “Why Triplicate Is Better Than You Think” thread.


Is there a "why Triplicate is better than you think" thread? someone should start one.

Its great that theres even naysayers with Desire which is regarded by most as one of his best album, maybe Joey could have done with a few lines knocked off of it but in general I like the whole album.


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PostPosted: Wed October 25th, 2017, 22:26 GMT 

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yeah, dylans voice during the Desire and ROLLING THUNDER REVUE time period is in great from, strong performances...
such great songs on Desire... ISIS...ROMANCE IN DURANGO, ONE MORE CUP OF COFFEE, Sara....Hurricane(of course)
BLACK DIAMOND BAY..
just curious, and not looking to start a war( LOL ) but am wondering if the fans that dont like Desire, were there, buying it on day of release,
or doing catch up during the early 2000's ?


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PostPosted: Thu October 26th, 2017, 06:02 GMT 

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LUCKY wrote:
yeah, dylans voice during the Desire and ROLLING THUNDER REVUE time period is in great from, strong performances...
such great songs on Desire... ISIS...ROMANCE IN DURANGO, ONE MORE CUP OF COFFEE, Sara....Hurricane(of course)
BLACK DIAMOND BAY..
just curious, and not looking to start a war( LOL ) but am wondering if the fans that dont like Desire, were there, buying it on day of release,
or doing catch up during the early 2000's ?
I bought it on Day One. Thought it was OK, but what a let down after BOTT.


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