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PostPosted: Sun October 15th, 2017, 20:51 GMT 
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Love Sick
High Water (For Charlie Patton)
Thunder on the Mountain
Mississippi
Dreamin' of You
Someday Baby (Tell Tale Signs)
Duquesne Whistle
Tryin' to Get to Heaven
That Lucky Old Sun
Workingman's Blues #2
Long And Wasted Years
Beyond Here Lies Nothin'
Things Have Changed


I think this is a great compilation for anyone interested in what Dylan has done since the mid '90s. I wish this would have been available for me before I owned all the albums. What do you guys think?


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PostPosted: Sun October 15th, 2017, 21:06 GMT 
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You asked, so...I wouldn't put Thunder On The Mountain in any "hits" comp.


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PostPosted: Sun October 15th, 2017, 23:53 GMT 
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The world is probably ready, but we really don’t need one.
Said it before: extremely glad Bob doesn’t treat his songs like the Stones and just keep reissuing the same versions over & over again, greatest hits album after greatest hits album.


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PostPosted: Mon October 16th, 2017, 05:51 GMT 
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Well, but you have to admit that Dylan's camp has released more than its fair amount of compilation albums with basically the same songs again and again:
"The Best of Bob Dylan", "Pure Dylan" The Essential Bob Dylan", "The Collection", "Dylan"...


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PostPosted: Mon October 16th, 2017, 06:14 GMT 
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Love Sick
High Water (For Charlie Patton)
Thunder on the Mountain
Mississippi
Dreamin' of You
Someday Baby (Tell Tale Signs)
Duquesne Whistle
Tryin' to Get to Heaven
That Lucky Old Sun
Workingman's Blues #2
Long And Wasted Years
Beyond Here Lies Nothin'
Things Have Changed


I think this is a great compilation for anyone interested in what Dylan has done since the mid '90s. I wish this would have been available for me before I owned all the albums. What do you guys think?


Quite a nice listen actually, but I'd have to substitute Dreamin' of You and That Lucky Old Sun with something else! I like the fact that Smoke chose to include Must Be Santa in his compilation. It was Dylan's biggest 'hit' in the UK from the period but I wasn't brave enough to include it as I knew it would have been met with howls of derision! You didn't include Not Dark Yet?


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PostPosted: Mon October 16th, 2017, 06:25 GMT 
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Still Go Barefoot wrote:
The world is probably ready, but we really don’t need one.
Said it before: extremely glad Bob doesn’t treat his songs like the Stones and just keep reissuing the same versions over & over again, greatest hits album after greatest hits album.

The Stones really know how to milk their compilations though! On Forty Licks they include four new songs and on Grrrr they included two new songs including Doom and Gloom. Just think how much more saleable that would make a new Dylan compilation!


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PostPosted: Mon October 16th, 2017, 11:24 GMT 
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Here's mine. I ignored the 65 minute thing, as I see no reason to limit to that, seems a bit arbitrary. Also mine is two discs, as god, there's so much great stuff from this period, and that's often how these kinds of compilations are packaged nowadays anyway.

Calling it Greatest Hits 4 is a bit of a stretch, but what the hell. It's kind of a 'best of' the era, as much as it's a Greatest Hits, much like Vol.3 was really. I've tried to keep singles in, as well as significant recordings from the era.
Leaving the songbook albums out would be absolutely ridiculous, as they contain some of Dylan's best work (of his career, if you ask me)... so here it is, in all its glory. I've been listening to it, sounds great to me.


Disc 1:
1. Love Sick
2. Mississippi
3. Cold Irons Bound (from 'Masked & Anonymous' OST)
4. Blackjack Davey
5. Duquesne Whistle
6. Tryin' To Get To Heaven
7. Full Moon And Empty Arms
8. Tweedle Dee & Tweedle Dum
9. Dreamin' Of You
10. Long And Wasted Years
11. Workingman's Blues #2
12. Must Be Santa
13. Melancholy Mood
14. I Feel A Change Comin' On
15. Make You Feel My Love
16. Hard Times


Disc 2:
1. Things Have Changed (from 'Wonder Boys' OST)
2. Once Upon A Time
3. Someday Baby
4. Red River Shore
5. Lone Pilgrim
6. High Water (For Charley Patton)
7. Tell Ol' Bill ('Tell Tale Signs' Alternate Version)
8. Huck's Tune (from 'Lucky You' OST)
9. The Night We Called It A Day
10. I Could Have Told You
11. Early Roman Kings
12. You Belong To Me (from 'Natural Born Killers' OST)
13. Not Dark Yet
14. Beyond Here Lies Nothin'
15. 'Cross The Green Mountain (from 'Gods And Generals' OST)
16. Autumn Leaves


So there it is... I'm sure some will hate some of the selections... but it works really well! A very even balance of his work since 1992.

Edit: Also, I threw together a simple artwork for my iTunes.... uploaded here if anyone's interested

https://we.tl/BTUtoO4d6b


I've also done a 3rd disc tracklisting... but it's an extra $100 if you want to see that one.


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PostPosted: Mon October 16th, 2017, 12:08 GMT 
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I like the track listing on the 2CD format. May even send it to Sony for their reaction. Your CD1 would be the basic issue, with CD2 being released with the de-luxe package.


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PostPosted: Mon October 16th, 2017, 15:41 GMT 
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It would be fun to contact Sony with a tracklist and suggest it.... does anyone know how one might accurately do that?


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PostPosted: Mon October 16th, 2017, 16:45 GMT 
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dvdunplugged wrote:
Just to reflect it was way back in 1994 that Bob Dylan's Greatest Hits Volume 3 was released. Apparently it peaked at No. 126 on the Billboard 200. Looking on the track list for that album which features recordings released between the years 1973 and 1991 doesn't make inspired reading. So from Good As I Been To You to Triplicate(?) we should be able to compile a track list which is much more exciting than the previous Greatest Hits release. For the CD format I would think 65 minutes of music is what we should aim for.

Love Sick, Cold Irons Bound, Make You Feel My Love, Things Have Changed, Summer Days, Not Dark Yet, Early Roman Kings, Melancholy Mood, High Water, Workingman's Blues #2, Nettie Moore, Ain't Talkin', Scarlet Town, Soon After Midnight, Long and Wasted Years, Blood In My Eyes, Forgetful Heart... it's going to be a toughie!


More exciting than a record including Tangled, Jokerman, Hurricane and Knockin'???
(let alone considering that you'd want to do that with songs from '91 on...)

You must be kidding me!
You can hardly do that with his 60's stuff.


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PostPosted: Mon October 16th, 2017, 16:49 GMT 
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Anyway, my choice would be:


1 . Not Dark Yet
2 . Trying To Get To Heaven
3 . Highlands
4 . Things Have Changed
5 . Mississippi
6 . Sugar Baby
7. Cross The Green Mountain
8 . Huck's Tune
9 . Tell Ol' Bill
10. Red River Shore
11. Workingman's Blues
12. Ain't Talkin'
13. Pay In Blood
14. Tempest
15. Long And Wasted Years
16. Roll On John


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PostPosted: Mon October 16th, 2017, 17:49 GMT 
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Rimshottbob wrote:
It would be fun to contact Sony with a tracklist and suggest it.... does anyone know how one might accurately do that?


You could print it up on a roll of loo paper and send it to them. Would work about as well as anything.


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PostPosted: Mon October 16th, 2017, 20:06 GMT 
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Giuseppe Gazerro wrote:
More exciting than a record including Tangled, Jokerman, Hurricane and Knockin'???
(let alone considering that you'd want to do that with songs from '91 on...)

Hurricane and Jokerman not his best work imo, his last 25 years have brought much better than that!


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PostPosted: Mon October 16th, 2017, 20:35 GMT 
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dvdunplugged wrote:
Giuseppe Gazerro wrote:
More exciting than a record including Tangled, Jokerman, Hurricane and Knockin'???
(let alone considering that you'd want to do that with songs from '91 on...)

Hurricane and Jokerman not his best work imo, his last 25 years have brought much better than that!


To each his own; but surely not for me.
:)

Were it for his last 30 years, I wouldn't rate Bob Dylan among my top 20 favourite acts.
But it is - once again - just me and my tastes.
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PostPosted: Tue October 17th, 2017, 02:49 GMT 
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smoke wrote:
1) Good As I Been To You (Jim Jones is better but this one has the right thematic overtones and was also the title track)
2) Blood In My Eyes (video was fairly popular at the time)
3) Love Sick (Victoria secret/single)
4) Make You Feel My Love (sorry, but it has to included on a Greatest Hits album)
5) Million Miles (this got a lot of radio play and I believe was released as a single)
6) Things Have Changed (for a million obvious reasons)
7) Mississippi
8) High Water
9) Thunder on the Mountain
10) When the Deal Goes Down (featured in a video release)
11) I Feel A Change Coming On (lead "single")
12) Must Be Santa (video release)
13) Duquesne Whistle (video release)
14) Lucky Old Sun (obvious choice)
15) Here's That Rainy Day (I just like it)


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In what sense was I Feel a Change the "lead single"? ( it HAS to have a slot on GH v. IV!)
edit: Beyond Here Lies Nothin' must've been first, it came out before the album
No sign Millon Miles came out as a single, you may be thinking of "Million Miles (Live Recordings 1997-1999)"
Discogs says "No frills promo single CDR in generic die-cut Columbia red & white card sleeve. Second single from "Together Through Life."


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PostPosted: Tue October 17th, 2017, 06:21 GMT 

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Soem extremely odd choices here.

Also, why are people obsessed with the conventional definition of 'hits' and 'singles'? Dylan's so-called hits collections have noting whatsoever to do with chart hits.


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PostPosted: Tue October 17th, 2017, 07:53 GMT 
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Such a quaint concept.


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PostPosted: Wed October 18th, 2017, 01:17 GMT 
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Maybe the best way to compile the next Greatest Hits collection is to look at the songs that Bob himself seems to prefer. Here's a "How Many Times Has Bob Played " list from https://www.setlist.fm/stats/bob-dylan-1bd6adb8.html. Now, I know that placement on a set list does not guarantee excellence - ahem, Sivlio, cough! But it does give us another way to think about how to select songs for a possible Volume Four:

1. Things Have Changed (played 883 times)

2. Summer Days (854 times)

3. Love Sick (819)

4. High Water (For Charley Patton) (717)

5. Honest With Me (602)

6. Thunder on the Mountain (601)

7. Spirit on the Water (564)

8. Tweedle Dee & Tweedle Dum (490)

9. Beyond Here Lies Nothin' ((452)

10. Cold Irons Bound (424)

And the non-Top Ten of "Modern Era Bob," continuing in descending order: Early Roman Kings, Pay in Blood, Duquesne Whistle, Long and Wasted Years, Soon After Midnight, Scarlet Town, Working Man's Blues #2, Rollin' and Tumblin', Forgetful Heart, The Levee's Gonna Break, Can't Wait, Jolene, Lonesome Day Blues, Waiting For You, Not Dark Yet, Tryin' to Get to Heaven, When the Deal Goes Down...

(P.S. I left out two Sinatra songs from the non-Top Ten list!)


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PostPosted: Wed October 18th, 2017, 01:29 GMT 

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Real Greatest Hits Vol 4:

1 - Love Sick
2 - Not Dark Yet
3 - Make You Feel My Love
4 - Things Have Changed
5 - High Water (For Charley Patton)
6 - Waiting For You
7 - Cross The Green Mountain
8 - Huck's Tune
9 - Tell O' Bill
10 - Thunder On The Mountain
11 - When The Deal Goes Down
12 - Dreamin' Of You
13 - Beyond Here Lies Nothin
14 - Duquesne Whistle


All killer, no filler.


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PostPosted: Wed October 18th, 2017, 01:41 GMT 
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AndoDoug wrote:




In what sense was I Feel a Change the "lead single"? ( it HAS to have a slot on GH v. IV!)
edit: Beyond Here Lies Nothin' must've been first, it came out before the album
No sign Millon Miles came out as a single, you may be thinking of "Million Miles (Live Recordings 1997-1999)"
Discogs says "No frills promo single CDR in generic die-cut Columbia red & white card sleeve. Second single from "Together Through Life."


Funny, after I posted that list I realized it should have been Beyond Here. which I like better as a song, actually. If it were up to me I'd buck convention and use The Dream Of You or Forgetful Heart (really interesting to hear the studio version these days, and it ain't half bad). You may be right about Million Miles, I might be getting it confused with the Love Sick single which had some "field recordings" included. I know it got played a fair amount on WXRT in Chicago, a fairly big station.


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PostPosted: Wed October 18th, 2017, 02:07 GMT 
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Sticking with mostly Dylan penned songs, with a nod to the "Sinatra era" and using the kind of stuff that has the kind of broad appeal for a GH. Not putting MYFML on here though. :evil:


Love Sick
Mississippi (not sure which version.)
High Water
Huck's Tune
Narrow Way
Nettie Moore
Po' Boy
Workingman's Blues #2
Cold Irons Bound (Masked & Anonymous soundtrack.)
Beyond Here Lies Nothin'
Not Dark Yet
Sugar Baby
Long and Wasted Years
Why Try To Change Me Now
Lucky Old Sun

Would not object to a Christmas In the Heart tune personally. It's just that none of them seem to fit. If you have to to, stick Must Be Santa at the end.


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Huck's Tune? WTF?


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Ain't Talkin' wrote:
Sticking with mostly Dylan penned songs, with a nod to the "Sinatra era" and using the kind of stuff that has the kind of broad appeal for a GH. Not putting MYFML on here though. :evil:


Love Sick
Mississippi (not sure which version.)
High Water
Huck's Tune
Narrow Way
Nettie Moore
Po' Boy
Workingman's Blues #2
Cold Irons Bound (Masked & Anonymous soundtrack.)
Beyond Here Lies Nothin'
Not Dark Yet
Sugar Baby
Long and Wasted Years
Why Try To Change Me Now
Lucky Old Sun

Would not object to a Christmas In the Heart tune personally. It's just that none of them seem to fit. If you have to to, stick Must Be Santa at the end.


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Huck's Tune? WTF?


Everyone has the right to put forward their choice, but I personally couldn't include Huck's Tune and at the same time leave out Things Have Changed. It has nothing to do with 'hits' but as someone else has already said THC is the most played song from the whole period covered.


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PostPosted: Wed October 18th, 2017, 07:15 GMT 
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smoke wrote:
You don't like Jim Jones??? It's one of my favorites from those albums.


I think Jim Jones is an outstanding performance and certainly one of the highlights of 'Good As I Been To You'. But I disagree with you regarding the 'title track', which I find comes up short thematically, is lyrically lacking and has a distinct paucity of melody.

Normally I would say such opinions are subjective, but in this case I believe I could could prove myself to be objectively correct in a court of law.


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smoke wrote:
You don't like Jim Jones??? It's one of my favorites from those albums.


I think Jim Jones is an outstanding performance and certainly one of the highlights of 'Good As I Been To You'. But I disagree with you regarding the 'title track', which I find comes up short thematically, is lyrically lacking and has a distinct paucity of melody.

Normally I would say such opinions are subjective, but in this case I believe I could could prove myself to be objectively correct in a court of law.


If this insane project has to come to pass, then the one song chosen to represent the acoustic albums must be 'Delia'.

It's not up for argument.


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