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Author:  Guthrie [ Fri September 15th, 2017, 08:18 GMT ]
Post subject:  Where Is The One - strange noise at the beginning

If you listen to "Where Is The One" very loud, you can hear a strange (background)noise, I can´t relate.

It´s before Bob starts singing. It sounds like somebody is breathig deep (Bob?) or sniffing or whatever. Or is it an instrument?

It´s hardly imaginable that such a clear background-noise isn´t eliminated at such a professional recording. Or is it intentionally?

What do you think could this noise be?

Author:  mjmooney [ Fri September 15th, 2017, 08:40 GMT ]
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Professional recording? Bob Dylan?

You jest.

Author:  Voice With Restraint [ Fri September 15th, 2017, 09:07 GMT ]
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Sounds to me like an unintended vibration somewhere on the drumkit. They reportedly only did one or two takes of each song, so I guess if that performance was the keeper, it stays.

Author:  McG [ Fri September 15th, 2017, 10:07 GMT ]
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mjmooney wrote:
Professional recording? Bob Dylan?

You jest.


This.

Author:  Guthrie [ Fri September 15th, 2017, 10:43 GMT ]
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By the way, by now, I like the Triplicate-album very much. After the first listening I put it in the corner, where it did stay for the first months.

Now, I´m listening nearly every day to the album and the amount of Triplicate-songs I like increases.

My favourite ones these days are: September Of My Years, This Nearly Was Mine, Here´s That Rainy Day, There´s A Flaw In My Flue.

I think the presentation of these old songs in this way is a great effort of Bob and Bob´s band. The interaction between the band an Bob´s singing and between the band members among each others is nearly perfect in my ears. And Bob´s singing is fantastic itself. I think there´s just one moment Bob is croaking, it´s at the beginning of September Of My Years.

Author:  Senyor Timbaler [ Fri September 15th, 2017, 10:48 GMT ]
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I'm not going to listen this song very loud or very soft... but I can tell you that if you listen "Cross the green mountain" with your headphones you can hear a worderful botch professionaly made. :D

Author:  majortominor [ Fri September 15th, 2017, 16:31 GMT ]
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There's a lot of breathing and other mouth noises audible on the Sinatra records, stuff that usually gets muted during mixing.

Author:  Jeeps [ Fri September 15th, 2017, 17:23 GMT ]
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Voice With Restraint wrote:
Sounds to me like an unintended vibration somewhere on the drumkit. They reportedly only did one or two takes of each song, so I guess if that performance was the keeper, it stays.


Actually, I think it's Dylan breathing (and smacking his lips). I doesn't sound like a snare drum - and it stops right away when Dylan starts singing, too.

Author:  Ain't Talkin' [ Fri September 15th, 2017, 19:34 GMT ]
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^ Either that or Bob chawing on a powdered donut.

It's a good performance of the song, BTW. More reminiscent of late period Billie Holiday than Sinatra.

Author:  goodmeats [ Fri September 15th, 2017, 19:52 GMT ]
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Sounds like a mix of brushing on a drum (I don't know the technical term) and Bob making it seem like he's crying. The drums start playing about a minute into the song and it kind of sounds similar to part of the beginning. Good song though.

Author:  Ain't Talkin' [ Fri September 15th, 2017, 19:56 GMT ]
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It's not anyone playing brushes on a snare drum, or vibrating snares.

Author:  goodnitesteve [ Fri September 15th, 2017, 23:26 GMT ]
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It could be Bob breathing. I hear it a lot on Triplicate. I think Bob's got some strong lungs and the gain on the microphone is high. He's singing very softly but the mic picks everything up.

Listening back to Shadows in the Night and Fallen Angels it's there a lot as well.

If it weren't for Bob's lungs he would have been a goner, the way he smokes.

Author:  LibraChild1980 [ Fri September 15th, 2017, 23:38 GMT ]
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I don't ever listen to the latest 3 studio albums, they all got the
respect of a couple listens each, and his voice sounds as good as
his voice can sound nowadays.
But, Bob's 76, so i guess he's earned the right to put whatever
the hell he likes out. I even find myself skipping the crooning songs
he plays live when listening to recent shows.
A New album would be nice around about now, but alas i fear
this next Bootleg release of live Gospel music that most of us have
already heard excellent quality recordings of will take up 2018's
release schedule.
I hope i'm wrong.

Author:  Ain't Talkin' [ Sat September 16th, 2017, 00:16 GMT ]
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goodnitesteve wrote:
the microphone


I guess Bob is still on the Neumann U47 ? Highly sensitive condenser type.

Author:  goodnitesteve [ Sat September 16th, 2017, 16:08 GMT ]
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Ain't Talkin' wrote:
goodnitesteve wrote:
the microphone


I guess Bob is still on the Neumann U47 ? Highly sensitive condenser type.


I haven't heard much about this. It would be funny if he was still using that considering during the Rome 2001 press conference he stated that people were using the wrong microphones for his vocal range. I'm sure that was just a misdirection, a red herring.

I'm sure it was mentioned by Al Schmidt in his interviews. In the tv performance for Tony Bennett, he was using some kind of strange microphone with a crystal ball for a head. Letterman he used something like a U47. Live is different than the studio. Bob likes to record live in the studio though. I have a headache.

Author:  Ain't Talkin' [ Sat September 16th, 2017, 20:26 GMT ]
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^ In the Bennett Once Upon A Time thing, the microphone looks like it might be an AKG. Nothing that weird. Not vintage.

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