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PostPosted: Fri April 16th, 2010, 01:27 GMT 

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This is one bad ass tune! Absolutely love it thru & thru. The MEZ is shocked this hasn't been covered yet in the "Track Talk Series". Can't wait to hear the favorite dates, renditions, posts for this monster of a tune. I hope most agree about the excellence of this track! MEZ


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PostPosted: Fri April 16th, 2010, 01:51 GMT 
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Possibly Bob's best blues song.

Rochester 2004 is THE definitive version in my book. He sounds possessed.

The performance I witnessed at Brixton Academy in 2005 was pretty amazing. About a third of the way through, Bob got in a groove and it became a totally different song. Wonderful.


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PostPosted: Fri April 16th, 2010, 02:18 GMT 
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The version on TTS is great too.


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PostPosted: Fri April 16th, 2010, 05:09 GMT 

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My favourite Dylan blues as well - properly stomping live.


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PostPosted: Fri April 16th, 2010, 05:30 GMT 
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How could anybody not love this song? It's great!!! The studio version, though, isn't my favorite. It wasn't until I heard it live (on a boot I can't remember) that I really started to dig this tune.

Here are a few vids from youtube:

Philadelphia - November 2001: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEbvSd3f ... re=related

Cardiff - May 2002: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxPg5DMt ... re=related

Illinois - October 2004: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKzIjMf50hc


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PostPosted: Fri April 16th, 2010, 08:36 GMT 

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My favourite version is from Warszawa, 7.6.2008:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ca5i2j


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PostPosted: Fri April 16th, 2010, 13:42 GMT 
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TheTruthIsObscure wrote:
My favourite version is from Warszawa, 7.6.2008:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ca5i2j


Can't believe I forgot about this one.. That entire show is great, though I wasn't too impressed with "I Shall Be Released" from that night.


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PostPosted: Fri April 16th, 2010, 15:26 GMT 
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There are times when Lonesome Day Blues does very little for me... and there are times when it blows open the doors of my mind... exploding with energy, images, and raw blues power. And for the life of me, I can't figure out why I experience it so differently. When it strikes a chord with me, I absolutely love it. And when it doesn't... it kind of like, "Oh, that's a decent song."

But that would be my problem. It's not Bob or the song...


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PostPosted: Fri April 16th, 2010, 15:46 GMT 
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That's the thing with Blues shuffles, the entire band has to be into it for them to work. The arrangement is generic so it all hangs on how many interesting improvisations you can form. If even one member doesn't care that night, the energy goes out of the whole song. But if they're on, it can achieve greatness. It's a fine line.


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PostPosted: Fri April 16th, 2010, 16:46 GMT 
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definately one of those songs where the live versions are a hundred times better than the studio versions, love the warszawa version!


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PostPosted: Fri April 16th, 2010, 23:37 GMT 
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I don't know, lost, I like turning up David Kemper


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PostPosted: Sat April 17th, 2010, 00:13 GMT 

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Isn't some of this song from The Aeneid? Any song that mixes Virgil and the blues is badass as far as I'm concerned.

But my favorite lines are these:

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I’m forty miles from the mill—I’m droppin’ it into overdrive
I’m forty miles from the mill—I’m droppin’ it into overdrive
Settin’ my dial on the radio
I wish my mother was still alive


Something about the way that last line almost pops up out of nowhere is like a gut punch. So touching, and in a hard-nosed song no less. I've had that same sentiment strike me at an odd time, just like that.


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PostPosted: Sat April 17th, 2010, 01:36 GMT 

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J.D. wrote:
But my favorite lines are these:

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I’m forty miles from the mill—I’m droppin’ it into overdrive
I’m forty miles from the mill—I’m droppin’ it into overdrive
Settin’ my dial on the radio
I wish my mother was still alive


Something about the way that last line almost pops up out of nowhere is like a gut punch. So touching, and in a hard-nosed song no less. I've had that same sentiment strike me at an odd time, just like that.


Yeah, and here the sentiment feels so different to the slightly blithe, certainly resilient : "Well my Pa he died and left me, my brother got killed in the war ...". It's as if that sad thought "I wish my mother was still alive" has just struck him right then that very moment and he's interrupted the song to tell us.


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PostPosted: Sat April 17th, 2010, 01:52 GMT 

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Exactly.


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PostPosted: Sat April 17th, 2010, 01:55 GMT 
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Hal. Jones on April 16, 2009 wrote:
But he doesn't consistently say the "I wish my mother was still alive" line. I've heard it substituted with:

"Well I've never felt more alive", "I hope to God I'm still alive", "I'm telling myself, I'm still alive", "I think I'm still alive"

And they all seem to work equally well.


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PostPosted: Sat April 17th, 2010, 12:09 GMT 

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Warren Peace wrote:
That's the thing with Blues shuffles, the entire band has to be into it for them to work. The arrangement is generic so it all hangs on how many interesting improvisations you can form. If even one member doesn't care that night, the energy goes out of the whole song. But if they're on, it can achieve greatness. It's a fine line.


Has it occurred to you that this is all basically nonsense? That's the problem with you, Warren. You just say stuff.


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PostPosted: Sat April 17th, 2010, 12:45 GMT 

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I haven't listened to many of the live versions, but the fact that he doesn't say "I wish my mother was still alive" as he does on the album cut just makes the line stand out more for me. I'm sure it sounds great on the other versions, regardless of what he sings--as I said, the whole song is badass--but the fact that he doesn't always sing that particular line seems appropriate--as if the narrator of the song doesn't want to cheapen such a line by repeating it at a time when it hasn't just occurred to him.


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PostPosted: Sat April 17th, 2010, 15:38 GMT 
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CShoe wrote:
Has it occurred to you that this is all basically nonsense? That's the problem with you, Warren. You just say stuff.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection


:lol:

Still waiting for the day when you make an actual point about something instead of just devising long ways to say "everything (Warren Peace likes) sucks!"


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PostPosted: Sat April 17th, 2010, 16:07 GMT 

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Warren Peace wrote:
Still waiting for the day when you make an actual point about something instead of just devising long ways to say "everything (Warren Peace likes) sucks!"


viewtopic.php?f=6&t=49183&p=768210
slocastro wrote:
At least CShoe is constructing well-stated responses and not simply calling someone a troll and adding absolutely nothing to the discussion.


Warren Peace, sole inhabitant of some kind of parallel universe.


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PostPosted: Sat April 17th, 2010, 16:14 GMT 

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Oh yeah, Lonesome Day Blues, one of the stronger latter-day blueses, was very reliable live right up through 2004.


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PostPosted: Sat April 17th, 2010, 16:20 GMT 
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I haven't heard one since 2004 that I care to save for posterity. Anything from 2004 and prior will dependably be great.


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PostPosted: Sat April 17th, 2010, 16:23 GMT 

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Hal Jones wrote:
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Hal. Jones on April 16, 2009 wrote:
But he doesn't consistently say the "I wish my mother was still alive" line. I've heard it substituted with:

"Well I've never felt more alive", "I hope to God I'm still alive", "I'm telling myself, I'm still alive", "I think I'm still alive"

And they all seem to work equally well.


I'm enjoying the intertwining of the threads! - but I don't think the substitutions work anywhere nearly as well. At the Isle of Wight Dylan sang "save me a son" instead of "kill me a son", and I can imagine that it may be pretty tricky to sing that line about his mother every time as well.


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PostPosted: Sat April 17th, 2010, 16:32 GMT 
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At the Berlin 2002 show he sang, "I wish my parents were still alive." Its the first variation I remember hearing. It really struck me because of the way he sang it.


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PostPosted: Sat April 17th, 2010, 16:53 GMT 
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CShoe wrote:
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slocastro wrote:
At least CShoe is constructing well-stated responses and not simply calling someone a troll and adding absolutely nothing to the discussion.


Alright, you're really gonna start freaking this guy/gal out if you keep obsessing over him like this. I know someone sticking up for you is a rare thing, but you gotta let it go. Or else, Slo might start thinking badly of you. And you couldn't bear that.

Keep chasing Moby, Dick. I mean, Ahab. Maybe you'll get me some day! I just make you sooooooooooo mad! That Warren Peace... Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr can't stand it!

Also, Lonesome Day Blues has one of the best endings to a Dylan song ever.


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PostPosted: Sat April 17th, 2010, 17:08 GMT 

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You do not make me mad. I do not have strong feelings towards you apart from the strong feeling that you drank the Kool-Aid.


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