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Do you consider Street Legal a classic?
Yes 65%  65%  [ 85 ]
No 35%  35%  [ 46 ]
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PostPosted: Thu July 27th, 2017, 20:56 GMT 
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Where are you tonight is up there with Bobs very best


Amen frenchster.

That song pierces right through you.


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PostPosted: Fri July 28th, 2017, 01:32 GMT 
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I think the last song seems to be where fans and detractors part company. I think the lyric is kind of scattershot and the vocal at times dismal.

You're drifting...like a satellite.


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Not a fan of New Pony. Otherwise it's a solid album.


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PostPosted: Fri July 28th, 2017, 17:53 GMT 
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Though I prefer the early folkie Bob (before BIABH), Street Legal is in my top 5 albums, even in a higher place than Another Side Of Bob Dylan. Of course Changin' of the Guards, Señor or Baby Stop Crying are fantastic songs, but I really love No Time To Think. For me, No Time To Think is one of his best songs but one of the most underrated too. Its mysterious lyrics, verses like "fools making laws for the breaking of jaws", "warlords of sorrow and queens of tomorrow", "leading you onto the brink", etc., references to Jesus, politicians, the Cold War, etc. puts this song in the same level as masterpieces like "The Times" or "Hurricane".


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PostPosted: Sat July 29th, 2017, 07:25 GMT 

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still sounds good today, a true test of a collections longevity(classicness, one might say)
i would argue tho, why arent any of these songs played in concert nowadays..
some really great songs tho....
saw him when it first came out, and this was his changing costumes tour
started in black and ended it white ( or was it the other way around ?)
and Changing Of The Guard was the encore
but this time period was a changing of direction for Dylan as well..
so would have to call it a classic by that standard alone


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PostPosted: Sat July 29th, 2017, 14:00 GMT 
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LUCKY wrote:
still sounds good today, a true test of a collections longevity(classicness, one might say)
i would argue tho, why arent any of these songs played in concert nowadays..
some really great songs tho....
saw him when it first came out, and this was his changing costumes tour
started in black and ended it white ( or was it the other way around ?)
and Changing Of The Guard was the encore
but this time period was a changing of direction for Dylan as well..
so would have to call it a classic by that standard alone


The Street Legal stuff got lost because the gospel period came right on the heels of it.
Only Senor survived as a regular live feature after that.


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PostPosted: Sat July 29th, 2017, 14:27 GMT 
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Honestly, I most typically listen to Street+Legal like this:

Listen to first track
Skip
Listen to last track
Repeat


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PostPosted: Sat July 29th, 2017, 18:32 GMT 

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I remember when I first heard it, I was surprised at how much I liked it (I was expecting dreck).

Gradually I've grown to like it less and less. The lyrics are some of the worst Dylan ever penned - it sounds like someone doing a bad Dylan parody much of the time. I still like Changing of the Guard and Senor. New Pony I like more now than I used to, and that's it.

Some of it is simply embarrassing. "No Time To Think" sounds like a sixteen year old hugely influenced by Dylan who was given a rhyming dictionary for his birthday.

Dylan doesn't play many of these songs live because they are really bad.


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PostPosted: Sat July 29th, 2017, 21:36 GMT 
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I don't think it's a classic. I do think it's interesting and has grown over the years.

The first CD I owned of it was horrible - then the new mix, released in the late 1990s, made a huge difference. It's sort of fascinating, in part because it exists in a unique little time frame: you can't tie it to the Planet Waves/Blood On The Tracks/Desire era, it sounds nothing like the Rolling Thunder years; and you can't really relate it to the gospel period that began with Slow Train Coming.

There's something about it that defies definition - easy or otherwise - and I think that must be what keeps me coming back. I have to say, a huge help in unlocking some of its enigma is down to Michael Gray's writing about it in Song and Dance Man: particularly the debt the lyrics owe to the writing of Robert Johnson.


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PostPosted: Sun July 30th, 2017, 02:37 GMT 

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I like essentially everything on there. "Changing of the Guards", "New Pony," "Senor," and "Where Are You Tonight?" are all very good in my book, with "Senor" being a top Dylan song. "We Better Talk This Over" is a nice little song if kind of inconsequential. Some of the others border on grating and "True Love Tends To Forget" is a little forgettable but is fine.


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PostPosted: Sun July 30th, 2017, 06:42 GMT 
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I guess I bought my copy about 10-15 years. Only recently did I start hearing about the 2 different mixes. I wonder which one I have...


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I guess I bought my copy about 10-15 years. Only recently did I start hearing about the 2 different mixes. I wonder which one I have...
Changing of the Guard duration - if it's 6:41, it's the original. If it's 7:04, it's the remix.


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PostPosted: Sun July 30th, 2017, 16:16 GMT 
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wormington wrote:
I guess I bought my copy about 10-15 years. Only recently did I start hearing about the 2 different mixes. I wonder which one I have...
Changing of the Guard duration - if it's 6:41, it's the original. If it's 7:04, it's the remix.

thanks, mooney. Mine is 6.36.
So I have the wrong mix, then? Is it worth to spend money on the new mix?


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PostPosted: Sun July 30th, 2017, 16:36 GMT 

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[quote="wormington"]I guess I bought my copy about 10-15 years. Only recently did I start hearing about the 2 different mixes. I wonder which one I have...
Changing of the Guard duration - if it's 6:41, it's the original. If it's 7:04, it's the remix.

thanks, mooney. Mine is 6.36.
So I have the wrong mix, then? Is it worth to spend money on the new mix?[/quote]Hmm. Depends on how obsessive you are. I heard claims like "sounds like a totally different album", etc. - but I can't say it 's THAT much better. There is a slight difference in sound, though. I bought the remix and got rid of my old one (I'm not one of these crazies that keep multiple versions of the same album).

It's not expensive, so on balance, I'd say yeah, get it.


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PostPosted: Sun July 30th, 2017, 17:59 GMT 
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Just as a curiosity, in Spotify there's a version of 6:37 (very close to 6:41, maybe the song was edited a little to be used in the page).


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PostPosted: Sun July 30th, 2017, 18:54 GMT 

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I believe there are two remixes, correct me if I'm wrong.

Wasn't there one released around 1999 (the one I have) and another, modified, one for the sacd release of the album? If so, has anyone any thoughts on their relative merits or maybe the differences are insignificant?


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PostPosted: Sun July 30th, 2017, 19:16 GMT 
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LionelM wrote:
"Changing of the Guards", "New Pony," "Senor," and "Where Are You Tonight?"


My list as well. The rest is more or less dispensable.


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PostPosted: Sun July 30th, 2017, 19:44 GMT 
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Very good album but maybe just a notch below top tier status for me.

I'd break it down something like this:

Top of the mountain:

Changing of the guards
Senor
Where are you tonight?

Very good:

We Better talk this over
True love tends to forget

Somewhere between good and very good:

New Pony
Baby stop crying

Not bad:

No time to think

Boring:

Is your love in vein?


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PostPosted: Sun July 30th, 2017, 23:27 GMT 

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And the poll confirms it is indeed a CLASSIC album! praise the lord Street-Legal has been redeemed


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PostPosted: Mon July 31st, 2017, 01:44 GMT 
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Nice to see a few people mentioning We Better Talk This Over.
A nice surprise in 2000, when he pulled it out in Anaheim, for the only play since '78.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T6-Gcu2tqkA


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PostPosted: Mon July 31st, 2017, 03:07 GMT 
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^ Thanks! I forgot that one got pulled out. Doesn't sound bad either! Wish it woulda stuck around.


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PostPosted: Mon July 31st, 2017, 03:15 GMT 

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No no no no no.

It sounds at times like Dylan as a caricature of himself as a songwriter. The vocal performance, on the whole, is grating. "Is Your Love in Vain?" contains one of the most cringe-inducing lines in his entire catalog. Etc.

Now, that being said, it might also be Dylan's best album in terms of melody, period. So it's a mediocre-at-best album redeemed by its melodies. That is my assessment.


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PostPosted: Tue August 1st, 2017, 21:06 GMT 

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Street Legal is one unique great album .Paving its way to gospel
period. Darker than Desire .
Underrated when first released the 1999 reissue properly
remastered gave this Lp all its splendor.
Great songs sang with fierce rage.
in a 5 days recording session.
Dylan at his best with lyrics.
A classic . Yes. Definitely.


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PostPosted: Tue August 1st, 2017, 22:32 GMT 
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mjmooney wrote:
wormington wrote:
I guess I bought my copy about 10-15 years. Only recently did I start hearing about the 2 different mixes. I wonder which one I have...
Changing of the Guard duration - if it's 6:41, it's the original. If it's 7:04, it's the remix.


My version from the complete album collection released in 2013 is 6:40 --- this should be the remixed version, not the original.


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PostPosted: Wed August 2nd, 2017, 00:40 GMT 
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My version from the complete album collection released in 2013 is 6:40 --- this should be the remixed version, not the original.

I'm pretty sure the complete album collection went back to the original mix for the entire album


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