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PostPosted: Mon June 26th, 2017, 22:26 GMT 
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I'm looking forward to the bootleg release of the A.J. Weberman tapes.


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According to wikipedia there was an album of duets completed by Bob in 82. Is that legit??

Would be an amazing instalment if it is... might even be part of the Gospel bootleg, pretty close in time.


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PostPosted: Tue June 27th, 2017, 17:25 GMT 
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It's just like that oldie, Squeeze a little harder (it all comes out)


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PostPosted: Tue June 27th, 2017, 17:31 GMT 
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frenchdog wrote:
According to wikipedia there was an album of duets completed by Bob in 82. Is that legit??

Would be an amazing instalment if it is... might even be part of the Gospel bootleg, pretty close in time.


Bob recorded with Allen Ginsberg and (separately) Clydie King.

http://www.bjorner.com/82.htm

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Dylan tells Mikal Gilmore in an interview that "I've also got a record with just me and Clydie King singing together and it's great, but it doesn't fall into any category that the record company knows how to deal with".


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PostPosted: Wed June 28th, 2017, 07:26 GMT 
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Harry Truman wrote:
Bob recorded with Allen Ginsberg

Yes, I just found out about that reading Behind the shades, some record they made around 1972 or 1973, but apparently no record company wanted to release it. anyone here heard that?


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PostPosted: Thu September 28th, 2017, 21:24 GMT 
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UPDATE:

"The Bootleg Series" and additional retrospective releases - overview and possible future projects

I. already released (or announced)


Bootleg Series:
1991 - The Bootleg Series Volumes 1–3 (Rare & Unreleased) 1961–1991
1998 - The Bootleg Series Vol. 4: Bob Dylan Live 1966, The "Royal Albert Hall" Concert (Manchester 1966)
2002 - The Bootleg Series Vol. 5: Bob Dylan Live 1975, The Rolling Thunder Revue
2004 - The Bootleg Series Vol. 6: Bob Dylan Live 1964, Concert at Philharmonic Hall
2005 - The Bootleg Series Vol. 7: No Direction Home - The Soundtrack
2008 - The Bootleg Series Vol. 8: Tell Tale Signs - Rare and Unreleased 1989–2006
2010 - The Bootleg Series Vol. 9: The Witmark Demos - 1962–1964
2013 - The Bootleg Series Vol. 10: Another Self Portrait 1969–1971 (including Isle Of Wight 1969)
2014 - The Bootleg Series Vol. 11: The Basement Tapes
2015 - The Bootleg Series Vol. 12: The Cutting Edge 1965-1966
2017 - The Bootleg Series Vol. 13: Trouble No More 1979-1981

additional retrospective releases:
2005 - Live At The Gaslight 1962
2005 - Live At Carnegie Hall 1963
2010 - In Concert: Brandeis University 1963
2012 - The 50th Anniversary Collection 1962 (CD-R set)
2013 - The 50th Anniversary Collection 1963 (LPs)
2014 - The 50th Anniversary Collection 1964 (LPs)
2015 - The Basement Tape (original mono mix of 1968 publishing demo) (LP)
2015 - The 50th Anniversary Collection 1965 (download)
2016 - The 1966 Live Recordings (+ separate releases of London May 26 and Sydney)

films:
2005 - No Direction Home (covering 1941-1966)
2007 - The Other Side Of The Mirror - Live At The Newport Folk Festival 1963-1965
2007 - Don’t Look Back (covering UK Tour 1965)
2017 - Trouble No More (Live 1980 + bonus material)


II. possible future projects

planned for 2018 (according to "a source" speaking to "Rolling Stone" magazine):
- Rolling Thunder Review documentary
- Blood On The Tracks sessions (including unknown and uncirculating solo version of the album)
- Desire sessions

mentioned by "a source" (Jeff Rosen?) in several interviews with "Rolling Stone" magazine:
- pre-Columbia coffeehouse tapes
- Hard Rain and other TV specials
- 1978 tour
- Infidels sessions
- Sydney 1986 ("Hard To Handle" concerts)
- Oh Mercy sessions [note: This could include the very early "Emlah Court" demo sessions, e.g. the piano demo of God Knows.]
- Supper Club CD/DVD [note: I think the preceding electric shows in the US in Sep./Oct. 1993 were much, much better concerts: Jones Beach first night, Holmdel, Hollywood Bowl – some of Dylan’s best shows.]
- "some sort of examination of the Never Ending Tour [1988-present]"*

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*Here are some shows that I consider the best of the best from that era:

- Berkeley 1988
- Brussels 1989
- New York City October 10, 1989
- Paris January 30, 1990
- Dunkerque 1992
- Holmdel 1993
- Dresden 1994
- Dayton 1999
- Cologne 2000
- Berlin 2003
- Kalamazoo 2008
- Tampa 2010
- Beijing 2011
- Brussels 2013
- Mainz 2015
- Frankfurt 2017

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III. my personal suggestions

studio/demo tapes:
1977 "I'm Cold" demos (if extant – 10–12 songs were written in 1977, one song supposedly called "I'm Cold")
1978 Street Legal piano demos (if extant)
1982–1986 Infidels/Empire Burlesque/Knocked Out Loaded/Hearts Of Fire sessions
1987 Down In The Groove/"Self Portrait II" sessions
1990 Under The Red Sky (rough mix version: no "superstar" overdubs, diff. vocals/lyrics)
1992 unreleased album (recorded in Chicago, produced by David Bromberg)
2008 My Own Love Song soundtrack (18 instrumentals)

juvenilia [hopefully held by the Tulsa Archive]:
1940s "Dictaphone" recordings of young Bobby Zimmerman singing songs like "Accentuate The Positive" (recorded by Dylan’s father) [probably lost]
1956 The Jokers acetate (early Dylan band) [Bought by the Dylan organization from the estate of Larry Kegan, now probably in the Tulsa archive.]
1950s rehearsal tapes of Dylan’s early bands recorded at the garage of the Zimmerman home at 2425 Seventh Avenue East, Hibbing, MN
1958 John Bucklen tape
1959 Dick Kangas tape
1960 Karen Wallace tape (The original tape has very good sound and over twenty songs, incl. early Dylan original „One-Eyed Jacks“.) [Still owned by Karen Wallace?]

reconstruction of "lost" albums:
1963 The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan (original version)
1964 In Concert (cancelled album)
1974 Blood On The Tracks (original version)
1987 Down In The Groove (original version)
[These are finished albums that at one point were due for release, but either got cancelled or were replaced by reworked versions. They could be released on vinyl, recreating the original artwork.]

in concert:
1974 A re-examination of the board tapes from New York/Seattle/Oakland/Los Angeles, mixed to better match the sound as heard in the arenas.
1976-05-16 Fort Worth
1976-05-23 Fort Collins
1978-07-15 Blackbushe (or one of the Paris shows or one of the late 1978 US shows)
1984-07-07 London [or Brussels 06/07 (incl. Tangled Up In Blue – "forbidden zone"-version), Rome 06/21, Barcelona 06/28]
1987 entire tour with the Grateful Dead (12 CDs) [Mixed to match the sound as heard in the stadiums. The circulating, unmixed soundboard tapes (most of which also run too fast) are a gross misrepresentation of the shows.]
1987 entire "Temples In Flames" tour (33 CDs)

video:
1956 The Jokers (early Dylan band) live on a talent show on KEYD-TV – Channel 9 – Minneapolis-St. Paul (broadcast live, probably not recorded) [Info comes from Howard Rutman.]
1958 The Golden Chords (early Dylan band) live on WDSM-TV – Channel 6 – Superior/Duluth (broadcast live, probably not recorded) [Info comes from Monte Edwardson.]
1958 The Satin Tones (early Dylan band) live on WDSM-TV – Channel 6 – Superior/Duluth (broadcast live, probably not recorded) [Info about this comes from Shelton. It is unclear if this might actually be The Golden Chords TV appearance.]
1959 Elston Gunn & The Rock Boppers (another of Dylan’s Hibbing era bands) live on WTCN-TV – Channel 11 – Minneapolis-St. Paul (broadcast live, probably not recorded) [Info comes from John Bucklen.]
1965–present – official promo films
1962–present – TV/Internet broadcasts
1966 Eat The Document (+ alternative D.A. Pennebaker cut)
1974 (It seems no shows were filmed professionally.)
1976 Hard Rain (Clearwater and Fort Collins versions)
1978 Renaldo And Clara (filmed in 1975) [Note: They should include a documentary that outlines how this movie was based on 1945 French movie "The Children Of Paradise“.]
1994-08-14 Saugerties, NY ("Woodstock '94")
2002-07-18 concert for the film Masked & Anonymous, Stage 6, Ray-Art Studios, Canoga Park, CA
2009 Vigilante Man (The People Speak outtake)


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PostPosted: Fri September 29th, 2017, 01:33 GMT 
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Thanks for keeping this at the forefront Echo!
Good work!


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PostPosted: Fri September 29th, 2017, 08:10 GMT 

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2006-early 2012 is basically out due to IOT interference. I honestly can't see a way around it unless they eliminate it from the mix.


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MrJudasPriest wrote:
2006-early 2012 is basically out due to IOT interference. I honestly can't see a way around it unless they eliminate it from the mix.
Sorry, what is IOT?


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PostPosted: Fri September 29th, 2017, 08:59 GMT 

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monklover wrote:
Four disk set of the best NET recording/performances the archivist has. Content should be career spanning.

I think, a career spanning project of very special remarkable and unusual performances and unknown material (including cover-versions of ops) would be a fantastic offer.
Plus an again career spanning collection of professionally filmed shows including the videos of the supperclub- and "ensame" shows.

Bob's getting older, me too.
We don't have that much time than we had twenty years ago.
In 2030 there won't be too many, who are willing to pay 100 or 200 (in dollar, pound or euro) for the "bootleg-output" of an artists who perhaps will be gone till then - at least it's not hard to predict, that he won't be on tour in 2030 and -let's face it- the interest in his music will drop then.


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PostPosted: Fri September 29th, 2017, 09:07 GMT 

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mjmooney wrote:
MrJudasPriest wrote:
2006-early 2012 is basically out due to IOT interference. I honestly can't see a way around it unless they eliminate it from the mix.
Sorry, what is IOT?


Have the same question myself. Has it something to do with phleghm or frogs?


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HopE wrote:
monklover wrote:
Four disk set of the best NET recording/performances the archivist has. Content should be career spanning.

I think, a career spanning project of very special remarkable and unusual performances and unknown material (including cover-versions of ops) would be a fantastic offer.
Plus an again career spanning collection of professionally filmed shows including the videos of the supperclub- and "ensame" shows.

Bob's getting older, me too.
We don't have that much time than we had twenty years ago.
In 2030 there won't be too many, who are willing to pay 100 or 200 (in dollar, pound or euro) for the "bootleg-output" of an artists who perhaps will be gone till then - at least it's not hard to predict, that he won't be on tour in 2030 and -let's face it- the interest in his music will drop then.


Our pensions mightn't extend far enough either, especially if we have to fork out for hearing aids in order to listen.


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PostPosted: Fri September 29th, 2017, 11:38 GMT 
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MrJudasPriest wrote:
2006-early 2012 is basically out due to IOT interference. I honestly can't see a way around it unless they eliminate it from the mix.



Organ/keyboard related?


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PostPosted: Fri September 29th, 2017, 14:49 GMT 
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escapeedrifter wrote:
MrJudasPriest wrote:
2006-early 2012 is basically out due to IOT interference. I honestly can't see a way around it unless they eliminate it from the mix.



Organ/keyboard related?

Instrument Of Torture


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PostPosted: Fri September 29th, 2017, 15:57 GMT 
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The bdsm years - people pay to get whipped. I dont wanna see bobs organ on the cover of this bootleg series.


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PostPosted: Fri September 29th, 2017, 16:53 GMT 
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Great list of things.

1977 "I'm Cold" [demos]

I read in a couple of biographical books
that Dylan only ever played these songs
to a few trusted friends and never intended
to record them. If they exist, it's likely
they'll be home recordings for playback, i'm
certain Dylan would have wanted to hear the
songs back so maybe they do exist.
I'd like to hear them, especially given the
reaction of those who did hear them.

1978 Street Legal piano demo / 1978-07-15 Blackbushe / Rundown Rehearsals

The above could be a brilliant release if the Blackbushe show
was recorded. Anthing studio wise from SL would be slight BUT
on the same Discs they could clean up and present the 1978
tour rehearsals. It'd all make a great Official Booleg Release.

1983 - Infidels

The entire recordings sessions remastered.
That'd be lovely.

Unreleased Tracks - Different album sequences 1985-88

Naked Empire, After The Empire, and the original
Rock and roll songs that were supposed to have made up
'Down In The Groove'. If live material had to be included
i'd remaster the Hard To Handle show, and perhaps one
of the 1986 shows from the USA tour of '86.

Dylan & The Dead (All Six Shows)

I personally would only include Dylan's set, (who owns the
Grateful Dead music are they on a Sony label?)
Remastered and with a booklet. This set strangely could be
a big seller, there are STILL legions of Grateful Dead
fans, and now since those days, Dylan's fan base has increased
ten fold.

1976 Tour

I'd include the two concerts you mentioned in complete
form, and have another disc with highlights from other
shows, plus the TV Special remastered and included as
a DVD.

1987 Temples In Flames

Don't think we'll ever get this one in any form, but if
we did, 4 full shows and some hightlights would make it
more affordable. 33 CDs is a lot to buy.

I'd also seek to start covering the NET instead of Dylan
continulay ignoring it.
6 CDs of 4 full 1988 concerts and a couple cd's containing highlights
from 1988 would make an epic start.

8)


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PostPosted: Fri September 29th, 2017, 16:58 GMT 
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The concert for Masked & Anonymous is one I'd like to see/hear the most, especially "Dirt Road Blues."


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PostPosted: Fri September 29th, 2017, 18:24 GMT 

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chambre wrote:
[quote="escapeedrifter]


Organ/keyboard related?[/quote]
Instrument Of Torture[/quote][/quote]


Aaaah, yeeesss! Now, I understand.


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PostPosted: Fri September 29th, 2017, 21:04 GMT 
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shitjoy wrote:
The concert for Masked & Anonymous is one I'd like to see/hear the most, especially "Dirt Road Blues."


Did he do a take with vocals of Dirt Road Blues?
Ive only got that short version with no singing from those sessions.
I did like those recordings though, i remember thinking at the time
''what if he recorded an albums worth of older songs'' with this band.
Sony should have asked him instead of releasing another best of, if
he'd have been up for re-recording songs he chose with the touring band,
and maybe thrown some of the covers he'd been playing in for good measure.
All well, it didn't happen, but would've been great if it had.


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PostPosted: Fri September 29th, 2017, 21:11 GMT 
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MrJudasPriest wrote:
2006-early 2012 is basically out due to IOT interference. I honestly can't see a way around it unless they eliminate it from the mix.


I was just listening to some 2009 shows, they were awesome shows,
lotta power in the band.
He maybe should've hired in a keyboard player.
He gave the reason that he couldn't find a key player who wasn't a soloist
and that he just wanted a basic sound, there's thousands of players would
have jumped at playing with Dylan and just playing sparringly i'm sure, but
that's another wage bill i guess.
When you have people around like Larry Campbell and Charlie Sexton, even
songs that were originally hammond/piano driven could be reworked to great results.


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PostPosted: Sat September 30th, 2017, 02:25 GMT 
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He may have wanted a sound but mostly I think he was bored with playing piano, and (naturally) took about as big a leap as he could. I remember a review of a 90's show saying the design and structure of the music continually courted failure, and that this tension made for exciting performances. Dylan has always had some good sized balls that way. Some of these shows didn't just court failure, they started in a bad marriage with it. A 2 or 3 cd set of highlights would be tremendous.


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PostPosted: Sat September 30th, 2017, 02:45 GMT 
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Dylan and the Dead Rehearsals


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PostPosted: Sat September 30th, 2017, 02:51 GMT 
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And if we're lucky, there's Christmas In the Heart outtakes that would make a lovely Christmas-themed Bootleg Series release


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Frankfurt is solid. But show of year for me was Hamburg. Nothing came close. Saw the east coast
Run and felt like those lucky people in April made out with the gold


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