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PostPosted: Tue October 11th, 2016, 09:44 GMT 
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Dear all,

I've been working my through Bob's albums chronologically - mainly because this means I have little excuse in skipping over some albums I haven't listened to :oops: - Shot of Love, was one of those that I hadn't quite digested all of the way previously, and yet listening to it yesterday on my commute, I was surprised at how much I actually enjoyed it.

Undoubtedly the most secular of the gospel trio, the production has obviously not dated particularly well - it's reviews however seem to be a little harsh; two stars from Rolling Stone, some chap from the NME calling Bob 'culturally spent' - but still I must say, I was really impressed - perhaps I was expected it to me or a dud? - anyway if we have a look at the track listing I think it stands up pretty well -

Shot of Love - Obviously not the greatest, but the vocals - as on the rest of the album - are great.
Heart of Mine - I've always enjoyed this one - well the Biograph version anyway.
Property of Jesus - For an overtly religious song, it still moves along nicely.
Lenny Bruce - Filler, for me personally.
Watered Down Love - Surprisingly catchy, production is dated but still a decent track.
Groom's Still Waiting at the Altar - One of my absolute favourite Dylan studio recordings, the vocals are insanely good.

Dead Man, Dead Man - Fillerish, but still very listenable.
In the Summertime - Same as above I'd say.
Trouble - Again, similar to Watered Down Love, enjoyable.
Every Grain of Sand - Magnificent, obviously.

So on reflection, maybe three of ten are fillers - depending on your opinion - this album starts to look a helluva lot better and with some great tracks smattered around in there too, I'd argue that SoL is one of Bob's most underrated albums (probably).

Any thoughts - am I insane?

Hibbs


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PostPosted: Tue October 11th, 2016, 11:02 GMT 

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We are all in sane, you gotta be, in this, in sane world.
I Just adore Shot of Love. I t really saved me a couple of times in my life.
Every grain is counted and romance grows, its such a comforting sweet album of Love.
A shot right in the core of our souls and makes our hearts full of blod.
Love the gospel singers and even the album cover is smashing!

POWER LOVE BANG


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PostPosted: Tue October 11th, 2016, 11:15 GMT 
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Yes, it's a very good album, imo. When referencing reviews from that time, though, keep in mind that Groom was not on the original album, leaving quite a hole.


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PostPosted: Tue October 11th, 2016, 12:02 GMT 
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I just find it so difficult to listen to SOL and Infidels without thinking 'if only ..."
So I only listen to my SOL playlist!

Its not unlike EB for me: The songs are generally a lot stronger in live performance.


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PostPosted: Tue October 11th, 2016, 12:12 GMT 
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I love In The Summertime. It's probably one of my favorite Dylan tracks.

But, as the Bard says, the whole era is a big "what if..."

Time for alt-tracklists?

Side A
Heart of Mine
Property of Jesus
Watered-Down Love
Need A Woman
Angelina

Side B
The Groom's Still Waiting at the Altar
You Changed My Life
In The Summertime
Caribbean Wind
Every Grain Of Sand


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PostPosted: Tue October 11th, 2016, 12:38 GMT 
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TimeandTempo wrote:
I love In The Summertime. It's probably one of my favorite Dylan tracks.

But, as the Bard says, the whole era is a big "what if..."

Time for alt-tracklists?

Side A
Heart of Mine
Property of Jesus
Watered-Down Love
Need A Woman
Angelina

Side B
The Groom's Still Waiting at the Altar
You Changed My Life
In The Summertime
Caribbean Wind
Every Grain Of Sand


Only one mistake; replace "You Changed My Life" with "Lenny Bruce" and you have a real gem!


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PostPosted: Tue October 11th, 2016, 12:41 GMT 

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i think it's so fine,
but why'd you want to argue it at all?
if you dig it,
then just dig it,
there are some with other tastes,
and there are also malcontents,
but who cares?


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PostPosted: Tue October 11th, 2016, 12:49 GMT 
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meuse2208 wrote:
TimeandTempo wrote:
I love In The Summertime. It's probably one of my favorite Dylan tracks.

But, as the Bard says, the whole era is a big "what if..."

Time for alt-tracklists?

Side A
Heart of Mine
Property of Jesus
Watered-Down Love
Need A Woman
Angelina

Side B
The Groom's Still Waiting at the Altar
You Changed My Life
In The Summertime
Caribbean Wind
Every Grain Of Sand


Only one mistake; replace "You Changed My Life" with "Lenny Bruce" and you have a real gem!


How about we put Lenny Bruce between Groom and Changed My Life, then replace Every Grain of Sand with the demo version (dog barking and all).

I could call that good.


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PostPosted: Tue October 11th, 2016, 12:53 GMT 
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I love Shot of Love. The outtakes are great too. The demo of Caribbean Wind is maybe my favourite Bob recording, but I still think that the album works fine without it.


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PostPosted: Tue October 11th, 2016, 13:10 GMT 
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In The Summertime, is probably my third favorite song on the record. Definitely not a filler.


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PostPosted: Tue October 11th, 2016, 13:20 GMT 

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Played SoL a few days ago and it's kind of a sentimental favorite, goofball like Under the Red Sky. Title track is bombastic, vocal on that great rhythm track Heart of Mine is very poor, and I can't even play Trouble I hate it so much. The other tracks have all gained with time for me and I'm not sure why. I think it's crazy rhythm, which co-producer Bob got right. Sure, Caribbean Wind should have been on there; it was good enough even if Dylan didn't know how to conclude it. Once I heard "Let's Keep it Between Us" I regretted his decision not to record it. That would have been a fine addition.


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PostPosted: Tue October 11th, 2016, 13:23 GMT 
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Meh.

Trouble is awful. Watered Down Love is meh. The rest of the album is okay. I prefer the Bootleg Series cut of Every Grain of Sand, what a piece of beauty.


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PostPosted: Tue October 11th, 2016, 13:24 GMT 

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ApocalypseKurtz wrote:
Meh.

Trouble is awful. Watered Down Love is meh. The rest of the album is okay. I prefer the Bootleg Series cut of Every Grain of Sand, what a piece of beauty.


Agree on Every Grain of Sand. The studio track is kind of bland until the harmonica comes in.


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PostPosted: Tue October 11th, 2016, 13:33 GMT 
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Yonder Come Sin
Caribbean wind
Let's keep it between us
Ain't Gonna go to hell for nobody
City of gold
Every grain of sand ( first arrangement)
Angelina
Need a woman
No man righteous
Don't ever take yourself away

As the first half of a double....might have been a better summary of a great period of songwriting.


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PostPosted: Tue October 11th, 2016, 14:00 GMT 
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Caribbean Wind was an outtake from SoL?! Why didn't I know this already?!

That would have really made the album something great.

Does anyone have any boot recommendations or places to find the SoL outtakes, please? :o


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PostPosted: Tue October 11th, 2016, 14:18 GMT 
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ANOTHER SHOT OF LOVE deserves some real love. Bring it on Sony. Along with Another Infidels and Another Oh Mercy.


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PostPosted: Tue October 11th, 2016, 14:28 GMT 

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Dylan on piano, Ringo, Keltner, Woody, and Duck Dunn, a dream rhythm section


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PostPosted: Tue October 11th, 2016, 14:47 GMT 

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Hibbing91 wrote:
Caribbean Wind was an outtake from SoL?! Why didn't I know this already?!

That would have really made the album something great.

Does anyone have any boot recommendations or places to find the SoL outtakes, please? :o


here's a good compilation:
http://thousandhighways.blogspot.com/20 ... eased.html


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PostPosted: Tue October 11th, 2016, 15:18 GMT 

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Couple points: SoL isn't very secular if you listen to the lyrics. And I think the production holds up very well. Listen to other records from 1981. That's to Dylan's credit because Plotkin wanted something more airbrushed a la Every Grain.

I wouldn't consider the record itself a triumph. More of a guilty pleasure, although it warms me up. But always with a smile because it's a long way down from best Dylan.


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PostPosted: Tue October 11th, 2016, 15:23 GMT 

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SOL is as perfect as it is.

I love this album.

Would be great if Sony would give us something from the Gospel years in one Vol. of the Bootleg Series.

Maybe with a DVD !?

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PostPosted: Tue October 11th, 2016, 17:36 GMT 
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I love SOL! Groom Still Waiting and Every Grain are two of my very favorite tracks. I recommend searching out the live 1980 performance of Groom included in the recent Michael Bloomfield box set, man is it raw and scorching


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PostPosted: Tue October 11th, 2016, 18:23 GMT 
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Shot of Love is quite simply a stunning masterpiece of a album... a pulsatingly throbbing work of joyous abandonment. An album that has no equal. An album of towering strength. An album of spiritual fulfillment. An album of hesitating beauty. Per se, a wonderful work of beguiling majesty. A perfect opus of celebratory genius. A masterpiece.


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PostPosted: Tue October 11th, 2016, 18:29 GMT 
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Definitely one of the better 80's albums. It's one I play a lot, and it's just got a good vibe all the way through.


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PostPosted: Tue October 11th, 2016, 18:32 GMT 
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thickboy wrote:
Shot of Love is quite simply a stunning masterpiece of a album... a pulsatingly throbbing work of joyous abandonment. An album that has no equal. An album of towering strength. An album of spiritual fulfillment. An album of hesitating beauty. Per se, a wonderful work of beguiling majesty. A perfect opus of celebratory genius. A masterpiece.


I never knew why you were the Senior Contributor, but with this post it starts to become clear.

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PostPosted: Tue October 11th, 2016, 19:35 GMT 
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I've always loved that album and its live feel. Vocals are great and I like the instruments sound in it.

Every grain of sand is obviously a masterpiece and the rest are minor songs, but many of them they really work. I really like the power of the start with Shot of kove, Heart of mine is great, I really like the Lenny Bruce feel, In the summertime is catchy for me and Trouble is powerful for me too. More recently I got more into Watered-down love too.

I really liked the album years ago hearing its vinyl version and Groom's still waiting at the alter kind of doesn't belong there for me. I like it anyway.

Dead man, dead man and Property of Jesus are the weakest for me.


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