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PostPosted: Fri August 19th, 2016, 08:05 GMT 

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notdarkyet2 wrote:
The 18 disc version was not available on importcds as it was a website exclusive.
-justin


You´re wrong, it´s available for about 100 Euro on the Import market.

Go and search on eBay.

Also you can find the 1965 Anniversary Collection called " The 1965 Soundboard Recordings ".


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PostPosted: Fri August 19th, 2016, 08:08 GMT 
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Just to be clear. These imports are pirate versions.


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PostPosted: Fri August 19th, 2016, 08:31 GMT 

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smiley wrote:
Just to be clear. These imports are pirate versions.


Did I say something else ???

Import = Bootleg or Pirate Versions.

Buy it or let it be.


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PostPosted: Fri August 19th, 2016, 08:43 GMT 
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Not all import CDs are pirates.


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PostPosted: Fri August 19th, 2016, 09:28 GMT 

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smiley wrote:
Not all import CDs are pirates.


That´s right.

But where I live and when I talk with somebody about Bootlegs we say Import CDs and so we know what kind of stuff we´re talking about.


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PostPosted: Fri August 19th, 2016, 10:05 GMT 
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you're a criminal 115th
copying, trading, buying, pirates (copies of official released material) is a crime


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PostPosted: Fri August 19th, 2016, 10:33 GMT 
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meuse2208 wrote:
you're a criminal 115th
copying, trading, buying, pirates (copies of official released material) is a crime



bad use of commas and/or brackets is much more offensive in my book, though


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PostPosted: Fri August 19th, 2016, 13:42 GMT 

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meuse2208 wrote:
you're a criminal 115th
copying, trading, buying, pirates (copies of official released material) is a crime


I said when we TALK about these kind of CDs, not that I buy them.


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PostPosted: Fri August 19th, 2016, 17:58 GMT 
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Giuseppe Gazerro wrote:
meuse2208 wrote:
you're a criminal 115th
copying, trading, buying, pirates (copies of official released material) is a crime



bad use of commas and/or brackets is much more offensive in my book, though


What are you? An english teacher in Italy?
My use of commas and brackets much more offensive than to recommend pirate cd's?
What the hell is wrong with you?


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PostPosted: Fri August 19th, 2016, 18:22 GMT 

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Folks, hang loose.

It´s all good.


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PostPosted: Fri August 19th, 2016, 18:29 GMT 
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meuse2208 wrote:
you're a criminal 115th
copying, trading, buying, pirates (copies of official released material) is a crime


bad use of commas and/or brackets is much more offensive in my book, though[/quote]

What are you? An english teacher in Italy?
My use of commas and brackets much more offensive than to recommend pirate cd's?
What the hell is wrong with you?[/quote]


What are you?

Is there something I need to tell you?

An english teacher in Italy?

Right guess


My use of commas and brackets much more offensive than to recommend pirate cd's?

By far and large.
I'd rather burn (keep on burning, actually) free Cds for friends than writing the way you do.

What the hell is wrong with you?

Well, I wouldn't say if there's something wrong with me *in general*, so as to say.
Sometimes I've got problems as everybody else, I guess.

Take care.

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PostPosted: Fri August 19th, 2016, 18:37 GMT 
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SOOOOOOO

How about Bootleg 13 huh?

I listened to one of the Australia shows today and realized that I'd be happy with a whole disc of different takes of Tell Me Mama. Maybe we'd get a nailed down set of lyrics?

I welcome the inevitable, be it a BS release or a CE release (or both!). I'd love some unreleased stuff, but I'm not upset that we'll be getting official releases of some stuff we already have. The official releases reach a wider audience, and ultimately, I'd prefer to have more people hear more stuff.


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PostPosted: Fri August 19th, 2016, 19:08 GMT 
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Giuseppe Gazerro wrote:
meuse2208 wrote:
you're a criminal 115th
copying, trading, buying, pirates (copies of official released material) is a crime


bad use of commas and/or brackets is much more offensive in my book, though


What are you? An english teacher in Italy?
My use of commas and brackets much more offensive than to recommend pirate cd's?
What the hell is wrong with you?[/quote]


What are you?

Is there something I need to tell you?

An english teacher in Italy?

Right guess


My use of commas and brackets much more offensive than to recommend pirate cd's?

By far and large.
I'd rather burn (keep on burning, actually) free Cds for friends than writing the way you do.

What the hell is wrong with you?

Well, I wouldn't say if there's something wrong with me *in general*, so as to say.
Sometimes I've got problems as everybody else, I guess.

Take care.

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^
That's just ridiculous and arrogant.

HERe's not your classroom smart aleck!


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PostPosted: Fri August 19th, 2016, 21:00 GMT 
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So any fresh rumors?


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PostPosted: Fri August 19th, 2016, 22:35 GMT 
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TimeandTempo wrote:
SOOOOOOO

How about Bootleg 13 huh?

I listened to one of the Australia shows today and realized that I'd be happy with a whole disc of different takes of Tell Me Mama. Maybe we'd get a nailed down set of lyrics?

I welcome the inevitable, be it a BS release or a CE release (or both!). I'd love some unreleased stuff, but I'm not upset that we'll be getting official releases of some stuff we already have. The official releases reach a wider audience, and ultimately, I'd prefer to have more people hear more stuff.

Agree about a disc of Tell Me Momma, although I was under the impression that each night pretty much had different lyrics (like Enough is Enough in '84)


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PostPosted: Sat August 20th, 2016, 03:35 GMT 

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dvdunplugged wrote:
goodnitesteve wrote:
I'm excited for the copyright concerts this year, hopefully we'll get something else in the bootlegs. I also can't wait for John Wesley Harding next year.

I didn't think there was that much unreleased stuff or outtakes from the JWH sessions? If there was it seems to have always escaped the bootleggers!

That is what I had always heard until relatively recently. When they started moving the archive to Oklahoma, they made a point of mentioning the JWH tapes and some compelling alternate takes. Makes sense to me, as they were probably recording live to tape for a few days straight. Of course there are alternates! :)


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PostPosted: Sat August 20th, 2016, 16:42 GMT 
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Overview of what's available from the 1966 shows:

World Tour 1966

US – known recordings

February 5 - White Plains, NY – audience recording*
February 6 - Pittsburgh, PA – audience recording*
February 26 - Hempstead, NY – audience recording*

Australia – known recordings

April 13 - Sydney, NSW – soundboard recording*
April 20 - Melbourne, VIC – soundboard recording*

Europe – known recordings

April 29 – Stockholm, Sweden – AUD*
May 1 – Copenhagen, Denmark – NAGRA
May 5 – Dublin, Ireland – NAGRA*
May 6 – Belfast, Northern Ireland – NAGRA
May 10 – Colston, England – AUD*/NAGRA
May 11 – Cardiff, Wales – NAGRA
May 12 – Birmingham, England – NAGRA
May 14 – Liverpool, England – NAGRA*
May 15 – Leicester, England – AUD*/NAGRA
May 16 – Sheffield, England – NAGRA/COL*
May 17 – Manchester, England – NAGRA/COL (official release from 1998 that combines both tapes: "Live 1966")
May 19 – Glasgow, Scotland – NAGRA
May 20 – Edinburgh, Scotland – AUD*/NAGRA ("Thin Man" from Nagra tape released on BS 7)
May 21 – Newcastle, England – NAGRA
May 24 – Paris, France – NAGRA (there is an unverified rumor of French radio also taping this show)
May 26 – London, England – NAGRA/COL*
May 27 – London, England – NAGRA/COL*

AUD = audience recordings
NAGRA = mono line feed recordings made with Nagra tape recorder by Pennebaker’s film crew assisted by Dylan’s sound man Richard Alderson
COL = multi-track tapes made by Columbia Records

Note: Some of the Nagra tapes are incomplete. The sound recording for the film was mainly done by Jones Alk, Howard Alk’s wife. They probably used a Nagra III NP.

*circulating (at least in part)

Sources: ISIS No. 187 (2016), Bootleg Series 4 – Live Manchester 1966 liner notes (1998), 1966 and All That: D.A. Pennebaker, Film-maker, interview by Shelly Livson, New York City, Spring 1984 (published in All Across The Telegraph, 1987), Michael Krogsgaard, Master Of The Tracks (1988), Genuine Live 1966 bootleg CD box (2000)


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PostPosted: Sat August 20th, 2016, 17:13 GMT 
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Also circulating:
Nagra tape Copenhagen 1 song (Thin Man)
Nagra tape Edinburgh 2 songs (One Too Many Mornings, LARS)
Nagra tape Birmingham 1 song (Thin Man)

An alternate mix is available for the Columbia recording of the electric half of the Manchester show (released on bootleg CD set Guitars Kissing & the Contemporary Fix in 1995).


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PostPosted: Sun August 21st, 2016, 01:19 GMT 
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Nice work Echo.
Thanks for researching and sharing this info!
Much appreciated...


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PostPosted: Sun August 21st, 2016, 07:57 GMT 
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Still Go Barefoot wrote:
Nice work Echo.
Thanks for researching and sharing this info!
Much appreciated...

I got copies of the 1965 stuff released last year and if the quality is anything as good as those then I look forward to the 1966 collection with eagerness. (Can't Wait).


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PostPosted: Sun August 21st, 2016, 08:25 GMT 
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Thanks for the roundup Echo!


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PostPosted: Sun August 21st, 2016, 20:22 GMT 

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My Echo, My Shadow And Me wrote:
Overview of what's available from the 1966 shows:

World Tour 1966

US – known recordings

February 5 - White Plains, NY – audience recording*
February 6 - Pittsburgh, PA – audience recording*
February 26 - Hempstead, NY – audience recording*

Australia – known recordings

April 13 - Sydney, NSW – soundboard recording*
April 20 - Melbourne, VIC – soundboard recording*

Europe – known recordings

April 29 – Stockholm, Sweden – AUD*
May 1 – Copenhagen, Denmark – NAGRA
May 5 – Dublin, Ireland – NAGRA*
May 6 – Belfast, Northern Ireland – NAGRA
May 10 – Colston, England – AUD*/NAGRA
May 11 – Cardiff, Wales – NAGRA
May 12 – Birmingham, England – NAGRA
May 14 – Liverpool, England – NAGRA*
May 15 – Leicester, England – AUD*/NAGRA
May 16 – Sheffield, England – NAGRA/COL*
May 17 – Manchester, England – NAGRA/COL (official release from 1998 that combines both tapes: "Live 1966")
May 19 – Glasgow, Scotland – NAGRA
May 20 – Edinburgh, Scotland – AUD*/NAGRA ("Thin Man" from Nagra tape released on BS 7)
May 21 – Newcastle, England – NAGRA
May 24 – Paris, France – NAGRA (there is an unverified rumor of French radio also taping this show)
May 26 – London, England – NAGRA/COL*
May 27 – London, England – NAGRA/COL*

The Paris concert - Olympia - was recorded by french radio Europe 1 for a show called Musicorama which was quite famous in the 60's until
the mid 70's. But for whatever reason ( contractual? a change of mind from Albert Grossman ?) the Dylan concert was never aired. The tapes must exist somewhere. Led Zeppelin, Hendrix, The Who, Manassas etc were recorded for this show and broadcasted. Led Zeppelin used tapes from the October 10 1969 Paris gig on the 1st Lp latest reissue monitored by Jimmy page

AUD = audience recordings
NAGRA = mono line feed recordings made with Nagra tape recorder by Pennebaker’s film crew assisted by Dylan’s sound man Richard Alderson
COL = multi-track tapes made by Columbia Records

Note: Some of the Nagra tapes are incomplete. The sound recording for the film was mainly done by Jones Alk, Howard Alk’s wife. They probably used a Nagra III NP.

*circulating (at least in part)

Sources: ISIS No. 187 (2016), Bootleg Series 4 – Live Manchester 1966 liner notes (1998), 1966 and All That: D.A. Pennebaker, Film-maker, interview by Shelly Livson, New York City, Spring 1984 (published in All Across The Telegraph, 1987), Michael Krogsgaard, Master Of The Tracks (1988), Genuine Live 1966 bootleg CD box (2000)


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PostPosted: Sun August 21st, 2016, 20:24 GMT 

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The Paris concert - Olympia - was recorded by french radio Europe 1 for a show called Musicorama which was quite famous in the 60's until
the mid 70's. But for whatever reason ( contractual? a change of mind from Albert Grossman ?) the Dylan concert was never aired. The tapes must exist somewhere. Led Zeppelin, Hendrix, The Who, Manassas etc were recorded for this show and broadcasted. Led Zeppelin used tapes from the October 10 1969 Paris gig on the 1st Lp latest reissue monitored by Jimmy Page.


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PostPosted: Mon August 22nd, 2016, 08:14 GMT 
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My Echo, My Shadow And Me wrote:
Overview of what's available from the 1966 shows:

World Tour 1966

US – known recordings

February 5 - White Plains, NY – audience recording*
February 6 - Pittsburgh, PA – audience recording*
February 26 - Hempstead, NY – audience recording*

Australia – known recordings

April 13 - Sydney, NSW – soundboard recording*
April 20 - Melbourne, VIC – soundboard recording*

Europe – known recordings

April 29 – Stockholm, Sweden – AUD*
May 1 – Copenhagen, Denmark – NAGRA
May 5 – Dublin, Ireland – NAGRA*
May 6 – Belfast, Northern Ireland – NAGRA
May 10 – Colston, England – AUD*/NAGRA
May 11 – Cardiff, Wales – NAGRA
May 12 – Birmingham, England – NAGRA
May 14 – Liverpool, England – NAGRA*
May 15 – Leicester, England – AUD*/NAGRA
May 16 – Sheffield, England – NAGRA/COL*
May 17 – Manchester, England – NAGRA/COL (official release from 1998 that combines both tapes: "Live 1966")
May 19 – Glasgow, Scotland – NAGRA
May 20 – Edinburgh, Scotland – AUD*/NAGRA ("Thin Man" from Nagra tape released on BS 7)
May 21 – Newcastle, England – NAGRA
May 24 – Paris, France – NAGRA (there is an unverified rumor of French radio also taping this show)
May 26 – London, England – NAGRA/COL*
May 27 – London, England – NAGRA/COL*

AUD = audience recordings
NAGRA = mono line feed recordings made with Nagra tape recorder by Pennebaker’s film crew assisted by Dylan’s sound man Richard Alderson
COL = multi-track tapes made by Columbia Records

Note: Some of the Nagra tapes are incomplete. The sound recording for the film was mainly done by Jones Alk, Howard Alk’s wife. They probably used a Nagra III NP.

*circulating (at least in part)

Sources: ISIS No. 187 (2016), Bootleg Series 4 – Live Manchester 1966 liner notes (1998), 1966 and All That: D.A. Pennebaker, Film-maker, interview by Shelly Livson, New York City, Spring 1984 (published in All Across The Telegraph, 1987), Michael Krogsgaard, Master Of The Tracks (1988), Genuine Live 1966 bootleg CD box (2000)


Why would any of these recordings be qualified for the next proper BS-Release? A copyright release will do, in what format ever. And then, I really hope we can get back to normal without having the European copyright laws in mind every December.


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PostPosted: Mon August 22nd, 2016, 12:13 GMT 
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Isn't it possible that there is no BS release this year? That it will just be a copyright release? Seems like a poor move considering the tour starts up again in October, but I think its wholly possible.

Alternately, I wouldn't be surprised to see some sort of Cutting Edge: Live -- the 1965-1966 live years box set.


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