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PostPosted: Mon July 14th, 2014, 21:24 GMT 
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My order now says £125, I'm so glad I purchased it for £30 the other day. :D


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PostPosted: Mon July 14th, 2014, 21:37 GMT 
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Isis magazine is still offering it for £28 in the UK. Anyone wanting a copy had better move fast.


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PostPosted: Fri August 22nd, 2014, 17:51 GMT 
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ISIS now says the "Annotated Lyrics" will not be published:

http://www.bobdylanisis.com/contents/en ... igest.html

20 August 2014
“Bob Dylan: The Complete Annotated Lyrics”
We have been informed by Simon & Schuster that the above title is now not being published!

Instead, Simon & Schuster U.S. is publishing a new book with a retail price of £125. The title of this book is “The Lyrics – Since 1962”. We have been informed that the page count will be 1034 pages (the original title was intended to be 768 pages). We are also told that the new book will include:

“the words from officially released studio and live recordings, as well as selected variant lyrics and revisions to these, recent revisions and retrospective ones; and, from the archives, words that, till now, have not been published”.

That is a bit of a mouthful but it would appear that these additional “variant” and “live” lyrics account for the majority of the 266-page difference between the “old” and “new” titles.

Simon & Schuster has informed ISIS that “The Lyrics – Since 1962” will be VERY limited.


It seems the annotations have been dropped. I never liked the idea of annotations by Christopher Ricks. I mean, why Christopher Ricks? The only annotations I would be interested in are Dylan's own annotations.


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PostPosted: Fri August 22nd, 2014, 17:55 GMT 
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My Echo, My Shadow And Me wrote:
It seems the annotations have been dropped. I never liked the idea of annotations by Christopher Ricks. I mean, why Christopher Ricks? The only annotations I would be interested in are Dylan's own annotations.


Also see here:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=80899

I'm not sure this means the annotations have been dropped. Will all those bonus pages really be filled with different versions of lyrics and previously unpublished ones? Great if true, since I completely agree with you re. annotations.


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PostPosted: Fri August 22nd, 2014, 18:01 GMT 
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Since Simon & Schuster make no reference to any annotations, I hope the annotations have been dropped.


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PostPosted: Fri August 22nd, 2014, 19:31 GMT 
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Here's the entry for the renewed book, The Lyrics Since 1962, on the Simon and Schuster site :

https://catalog.simonandschuster.com/Ti ... =&find=&a=


As the book is edited by Christopher Ricks, Lisa Nemrow and Julie Nemrow, I would presume a lot of editorial content. Annotations ahoy! And I'm pleased by that. This is going to be excellent.


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PostPosted: Fri August 22nd, 2014, 20:18 GMT 

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The story continues to unfold.

Amazon.com has it listed for $180 (suggested list price of $200) with only 960 pages:

http://www.amazon.com/The-Lyrics-Since- ... lan+lyrics


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PostPosted: Fri September 26th, 2014, 14:36 GMT 
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someone from simon & schuster posted some pics of a finished copy:
https://twitter.com/elizabethmoya/statu ... 0856225792


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PostPosted: Fri September 26th, 2014, 14:52 GMT 
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My Echo, My Shadow And Me wrote:
It seems the annotations have been dropped. I never liked the idea of annotations by Christopher Ricks. I mean, why Christopher Ricks? The only annotations I would be interested in are Dylan's own annotations.


Well this is good news! :P


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PostPosted: Fri September 26th, 2014, 14:58 GMT 
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Giada wrote:
someone from simon & schuster posted some pics of a finished copy:
https://twitter.com/elizabethmoya/statu ... 0856225792


Nice. Thanks, Giada!







Maybe he can receive the Nobel Prize for this book ;)


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PostPosted: Fri September 26th, 2014, 16:21 GMT 
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WoollyRockers wrote:
My Echo, My Shadow And Me wrote:
It seems the annotations have been dropped. I never liked the idea of annotations by Christopher Ricks. I mean, why Christopher Ricks? The only annotations I would be interested in are Dylan's own annotations.


Well this is good news! :P


Bob should have written them. He'd probably have told us less about the songs than we thought we knew, but it would have been very chroniclesque and definitely fun. Imagine he wrote something for every song then shuffled it so nothing would go with what it was written for. :mrgreen: Just to confuse them.... and then wait for someone to write it up in so many words as making perfect sense. :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon September 29th, 2014, 15:36 GMT 
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raging_glory wrote:
Giada wrote:
someone from simon & schuster posted some pics of a finished copy:
https://twitter.com/elizabethmoya/statu ... 0856225792


Nice. Thanks, Giada!








Maybe he can receive the Nobel Prize for this book ;)



Tragore won with The Gitanjali, or Song Offerings, a book of songs.
WB Yeats introduced the book rather beautifully :
When there was but one mind in England, Chaucer wrote his Troilus and Cressida, and thought he had written to be read, or to be read out---for our time was coming on apace---he was sung by minstrels for a while. Rabindranath Tagore, like Chaucer's forerunners, writes music for his words, and one understands at every moment that he is so abundant, so spontaneous, so daring in his passion, so full of surprise, because he is doing something which has never seemed strange, unnatural, or in need of defence. These verses will not lie in little well-printed books upon ladies' tables, who turn the pages with indolent hands that they may sigh over a life without meaning, which is yet all they can know of life, or be carried by students at the university to be laid aside when the work of life begins, but, as the generations pass, travellers will hum them on the highway and men rowing upon the rivers.


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PostPosted: Mon September 29th, 2014, 15:39 GMT 
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Why does anyone need a copy of the lyrics? Listen to the songs with your ears and work it out. And if you can't work it out, Google it.

Jesus, such a waste of trees and money and dignity.


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PostPosted: Mon September 29th, 2014, 15:43 GMT 
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Tagore is an amazing poet. His words work in eyes.

Bob Dylan is not a poet, he is a songwriter and singer. His words work in ears.


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PostPosted: Mon September 29th, 2014, 16:07 GMT 
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I agree that Dylan's words work best in the air, not on the page, but they're still beautiful set down there in a book to be read and thought about. Tagore - the amazing poet whose work I'm sure you know so well - was a songwriter whose words were not meant just for the eyes.
The book isn't meant to replace the music - it's there to complement it.
If you think the words will repay attention then it's a good thing to have them on a page.
It doesn't mean you judge the art of a song by how well the words work when they're written down. It's just a way of having a better appreciation. It doesn't mean it's poetry. It's the words of songs.


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PostPosted: Mon September 29th, 2014, 16:20 GMT 
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^This.


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PostPosted: Mon September 29th, 2014, 16:25 GMT 
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Hungryhoss wrote:
Jesus, such a waste of trees and money and dignity.

Just when you thought you've come in contact with every stupid piece of criticism that there is to write or say, along comes this gem. :roll:


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PostPosted: Mon September 29th, 2014, 16:30 GMT 
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kybo8845 wrote:
Hungryhoss wrote:
Jesus, such a waste of trees and money and dignity.

Just when you thought you've come in contact with every stupid piece of criticism that there is to write or say, along comes this gem. :roll:



However, there's a little ring of familiarity in Hungryhoss's posts.


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PostPosted: Mon September 29th, 2014, 17:09 GMT 
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Which songs do you want to know the words to?


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PostPosted: Mon September 29th, 2014, 17:30 GMT 

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I had that pink "Writings and Drawings" for years and cherished it dearly. Of course the songs are best heard, but back then my english, or rather american was not good enough to get every phrase, and today his voice is not alw..... :?

I'd buy it, where it not for the ridiculous price. Well maybe I still will.


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PostPosted: Mon September 29th, 2014, 17:32 GMT 
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There's a harp not a harp on the cover....


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PostPosted: Mon September 29th, 2014, 17:32 GMT 
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Hungryhoss can give you the words for any song you care to mention, and I'll write the notes for you.

Think of all the trees, money and dignity you'll save.


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PostPosted: Mon September 29th, 2014, 17:40 GMT 
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I don't just want to know the words. I want to read them in a lovely book. I think they're worth that.
What I don't want is the words cut and pasted by someone who seems just a little a bit obsessed with how other Dylan fans enjoy Dylan's work. And also, controversially, I'd prefer to read Christopher Ricks' thoughts on the songs than littlemaggie's - although his may still be valuable.
Thanks for the offer, though!


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PostPosted: Mon September 29th, 2014, 17:42 GMT 
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I thought they dropped Prof Rick's.... notes?


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Trev wrote:
I don't just want to know the words. I want to read them in a lovely book. I think they're worth that.
What I don't want is the words cut and pasted by someone who seems just a little a bit obsessed with how other Dylan fans enjoy Dylan's work. And also, controversially, I'd prefer to read Christopher Ricks' thoughts on the songs than littlemaggie's - although his may still be valuable.
Thanks for the offer, though!


But in mine and littlemaggie's free version, we have changed key words for types of monkey, Trevor. This alone is worth the price of admission.


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