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PostPosted: Mon December 23rd, 2013, 04:43 GMT 

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What do you think is the best album Dylan released in the 80's? Or worst?

For me 'Infidels' is the best by miles.

The worst would have to be "Under The Red Sky".


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PostPosted: Mon December 23rd, 2013, 04:48 GMT 
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Blind Commissioner wrote:

The worst would have to be "Under The Red Sky".


Recorded and released in 1990.


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PostPosted: Mon December 23rd, 2013, 04:50 GMT 
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Saved or Oh Mercy best.

worst not sure


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PostPosted: Mon December 23rd, 2013, 04:51 GMT 
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1. Oh Mercy
2. Infidels
3. Shot Of Love
4. Saved
5. Empire Burlesque
6. Under The Red Sky
7. Knocked Out Loaded/Down In the Groove


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PostPosted: Mon December 23rd, 2013, 04:54 GMT 
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Like A Thin Man wrote:
1. Oh Mercy
2. Infidels
3. Shot Of Love
4. Saved
5. Empire Burlesque
6. Under The Red Sky
7. Knocked Out Loaded/Down In the Groove


good order


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PostPosted: Mon December 23rd, 2013, 05:24 GMT 
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I know we all want to believe that Under The Red Sky occurred in the 80s but it wasn't the case.


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PostPosted: Mon December 23rd, 2013, 07:18 GMT 

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Ain't Talkin' wrote:
Blind Commissioner wrote:

The worst would have to be "Under The Red Sky".


Recorded and released in 1990.


yes I just realised my mistake

the award would then have to be handed down to "Down In The Groove"


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PostPosted: Mon December 23rd, 2013, 07:24 GMT 
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1. Infidels (Best)
2. Oh Mercy
3. Shot Of Love
4. Knocked Out Loaded
5. Empire Burlesque
6. Down In The Groove
7. Saved (Worst)


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PostPosted: Mon December 23rd, 2013, 08:15 GMT 

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Best: Oh Mercy

Worst: Knocked Out and Loaded

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PostPosted: Mon December 23rd, 2013, 09:18 GMT 
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Best Saved
Worst Hearts of Fire soundtrack. If that doesn't count then Down In the groove although I do like that record. There was a lot of worse stuff around at the time from other bands.


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PostPosted: Mon December 23rd, 2013, 09:20 GMT 
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Best: Infidels
Worst: Empire Burlesque it could have been great, but everybody involved was trying to hard to make a" real contemporarry 80s" album. That's how it ended as the messs that it is.
Down in the Groove would have been the worst, but I don't consider it as a regular album, just a collection of leftovers.

For me, Saved and Shot somehow still belong to the 70s, just like the 90 s begin after Red Sky, but that's just me.


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PostPosted: Mon December 23rd, 2013, 10:05 GMT 
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1. Oh Mercy (Best)
2. Infidels
3. Shot Of Love
4. Knocked Out Loaded
5. Down In The Groove
6. Empire Burlesque
7. Saved (Worst)


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PostPosted: Mon December 23rd, 2013, 11:06 GMT 
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To those who rate Saved at or near the bottom of their list, do you base this on musical or lyrical content (or both equally)?


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PostPosted: Mon December 23rd, 2013, 12:06 GMT 
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Oh Mercy (best)
Shot Of Love
Infidels
Empire Burlesque
Saved
Knocked Out Loaded (worst)







Down In The Groove (out of contest, it equally sucks start to finish)


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PostPosted: Mon December 23rd, 2013, 13:25 GMT 
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Oh Mercy is far and away my favorite from the '80s. Infidels is second. From there I would go:

Shot of Love
Knocked Out Loaded
("Brownsville Girl" counts for a lot, for me)
Saved
Empire Burlesque
Down in the Groove


The bottom three could almost go in any order. I've never derived much enjoyment out of any of them, though I'm about to give Saved a fresh shot (I haven't heard it in years, and just got the Complete Albums box, so it's a good time to revisit it).

And if Under the Red Sky *were* an '80s album, I'd rank it third. I really love about half of it.

If live albums are included, I'd put Real Live in the middle of the list I guess. I can't rate Dylan & the Dead as it's the one official Dylan album I've not yet heard (though I will before long, again thanks -- or no thanks! -- to the Complete Albums box).


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PostPosted: Mon December 23rd, 2013, 13:39 GMT 
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Johanna Parker wrote:
To those who rate Saved at or near the bottom of their list, do you base this on musical or lyrical content (or both equally)?


Saved has beautiful, brilliant songs, and could have rated as the best if better performed on the record. Infidels and Shot Of Love were also albums that had the potential to be clearly the best of the '80s.


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PostPosted: Mon December 23rd, 2013, 13:46 GMT 
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Oh mercy (no contest, really)
Infidels (coulda been a real contender if Bob had not wilfully sabotaged it)
Shot of Love (uneven, but has it's moments)
Saved (at least the music is quite good)
Down in the Groove(!) (Shehandoah, Dead End street, Rank Strangers are all good songs)
Empire B (shit, despite having the brilliant Dark Eyes)
Knocked Out Loaded (I don't care much for Brownsville Girl, so then there is absolutely nothing)


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PostPosted: Mon December 23rd, 2013, 13:47 GMT 
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Johanna Parker wrote:
To those who rate Saved at or near the bottom of their list, do you base this on musical or lyrical content (or both equally)?


Both pretty much. The lyrical content just doesn't mean anything to me personally, and I don't like the production and the weird background vocals either. The piano sounds good though, I'll give you that. :lol:

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Knocked Out Loaded (I don't care much for Brownsville Girl, so then there is absolutely nothing)


I actually like the one he wrote with Tom Petty, "Got My Mind Made Up"... I think that's the best song on Knocked Out Loaded.

I always feel sad about Down In The Groove. It sort of goes back to Rock'n'Roll, it's got these songs he wrote with Robert Hunter, as he'd do again later. I'm not even sure what went wrong. Maybe the wrong choice of tracks. It could have been so much better.


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PostPosted: Mon December 23rd, 2013, 13:54 GMT 
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I would say 'Saved' is by far Dylan's greatest album of the 1980s. I can only say to those that have it at the bottom of their lists that well, basically you are wrong. Not wrong in your opinions - there is no such thing as an opinion that is wrong because by the very nature of opinions they hold no water as truth beyond the minds that contain them - but in your appreciation of the record.

All I can suggest is that you go back to it and listen again. It's Dylan best collection of songs in the decade by a country mile.

Worst is a tough one to call as I rarely listen to any of the others, at least all the way through. All I see and hear after 'Saved' is lack of focus from Dylan. Hearts of Fire is probably the nadir, but watching his performance with Tom Petty on the Hand To Handle video last night, I was embarrassed to be a fan. Everything about it was excruciating.

People talk about Oh Mercy being his comeback album, but I find that record massively overrated. I would argue Dylan never really found himself again on record until Good As I Been To You, well into the 90s.


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PostPosted: Mon December 23rd, 2013, 14:25 GMT 
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Like A Thin Man wrote:
1. Oh Mercy
2. Infidels
3. Shot Of Love
4. Saved
5. Empire Burlesque
6. Under The Red Sky
7. Knocked Out Loaded/Down In the Groove


As you've put Down In The Groove after Knocked Out Loaded, even though they share the same position on your chart, I'm going to make you a member of the KOLLECTIVE (Knocked Out Loaded Lovers Enjoy Coming Together In Various Enterprises) anyway, as we need the numbers. Well done!


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PostPosted: Mon December 23rd, 2013, 15:14 GMT 

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Best is oh mercy.

Knocked out loaded and down in the groove are both bad, but I like brownsville girl. So Down in the Groove is the worst.


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PostPosted: Mon December 23rd, 2013, 15:25 GMT 
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Brian Hamilton Smith wrote:
I would say 'Saved' is by far Dylan's greatest album of the 1980s. I can only say to those that have it at the bottom of their lists that well, basically you are wrong. Not wrong in your opinions - there is no such thing as an opinion that is wrong because by the very nature of opinions they hold no water as truth beyond the minds that contain them - but in your appreciation of the record.

All I can suggest is that you go back to it and listen again. It's Dylan best collection of songs in the decade by a country mile.

Worst is a tough one to call as I rarely listen to any of the others, at least all the way through. All I see and hear after 'Saved' is lack of focus from Dylan. Hearts of Fire is probably the nadir, but watching his performance with Tom Petty on the Hand To Handle video last night, I was embarrassed to be a fan. Everything about it was excruciating.

People talk about Oh Mercy being his comeback album, but I find that record massively overrated. I would argue Dylan never really found himself again on record until Good As I Been To You, well into the 90s.


I agree with much of the above although I do enjoy most of his 80s records. I do find Oh mercy overrated. It has some great moments such as man in the long black coat and shooting star but I don't find it a great album.


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PostPosted: Mon December 23rd, 2013, 15:42 GMT 
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I love them all.


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PostPosted: Mon December 23rd, 2013, 15:57 GMT 

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1. Oh Mercy
2. Shot Of Love
3. Saved
4. Infidels
5. Under The Red Sky
6. Empire Burlesque
7. Knocked Out Loaded/Down In the Groove

i think slow train coming should be included given that its the first of the gospel era. if i was to include it, i would put it at number 1.


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PostPosted: Mon December 23rd, 2013, 16:04 GMT 
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Oh Mercy!

#2 Infidels

worst: All the rest


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