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PostPosted: Thu January 25th, 2018, 22:20 GMT 

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Don Was was interviewed for the WTF podcast today. It is a really cool interview with some good stuff about his upbringing in Detroit... and he shares how he thinks he x up producing Dylan.

He also mysteriously says he recently worked with Dylan on something but can't talk about it.

here is the link to the podcast: http://www.wtfpod.com/


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PostPosted: Thu January 25th, 2018, 22:29 GMT 
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Todd1973 wrote:
He also mysteriously says he recently worked with Dylan on something but can't talk about it.

Maybe someone can please transcribe that sentence or two and post it here?
Only I f possible.
I don’t think I need to listen to Don go on & on.

Or that guy who’s show it is. Painful.


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PostPosted: Thu January 25th, 2018, 22:50 GMT 
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It runs from 51:52-56:10 Kinda interesting. He says his
ambition was to make Blonde On Blonde II, and how that
jinxed the process as that was the furthest thing from Dylan's
mind. Dylan already was on the Americana route and UTRS
proved to be a left turn on that journey. Then he goes on to
say that they worked together recently & can't talk about it
(minute 53) and how he loves the Sinatra records, and how he
Dylan has a fresh approach to the material live to this day.

Bottom line is though: There's just too much rumour all around
(McCreary, Staples & now Don Was) for there not to be a new
studio project in the works!!!!


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PostPosted: Thu January 25th, 2018, 23:51 GMT 
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Thanks Gerard.

I stand corrected. Don Was is fine.
It’s that announcer host that’s a bit obnoxious.
Thanks for pointing out the section.

Don Was: “We just did something fairly recently that I can’t talk about.”

He’s honest. And he respects Dylan.
I like how Don states he learned a lot from the Red Sky sessions
and couldn’t believe it when he listened to the recordings and
heard himself telling Bob something wouldn’t work before it was even tried.
He’s still kicking himself for not “chasing up Bob’s ideas after
waiting my whole life to work with him.”

He also protects Bob, or rather “gets” Bob
unlike the announcer who pulls the usual
Bob criticism out here & there in the short
section you pointed out.

Worth listening to, thanks again.


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PostPosted: Fri January 26th, 2018, 00:30 GMT 

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Still Go Barefoot wrote:
Thanks Gerard.

I stand corrected. Don Was is fine.
It’s that announcer host that’s a bit obnoxious.
Thanks for pointing out the section.

Don Was: “We just did something fairly recently that I can’t talk about.”

He’s honest. And he respects Dylan.
I like how Don states he learned a lot from the Red Sky sessions
and couldn’t believe it when he listened to the recordings and
heard himself telling Bob something wouldn’t work before it was even tried.
He’s still kicking himself for not “chasing up Bob’s ideas after
waiting my whole life to work with him.”

He also protects Bob, or rather “gets” Bob
unlike the announcer who pulls the usual
Bob criticism out here & there in the short
section you pointed out.

Worth listening to, thanks again.


Whatever it is, I hope it'll some day be released. Also that's WTFpod with Marc Maron, he's actually really funny in my opinion and some of the podcasts are really awesome. I find some of his criticisms valid though, and I think it's more geared towards the mid 2000 shows Dylan did. I can find value in pretty much any Dylan record to various degrees, but not every live period is great. There's some questionable periods. One thing everyone seems to agree with is that the standards records have caused Bob to focus on the clarity of his voice.

Also, I KNEW I wasn't (too) crazy in thinking that Don Was wanted to take a Blonde On Blonde approach to Under the Red Sky. Every time someone tried to do that with Dylan's albums post- BOB it wound up making the album sound silly. That sound didn't suit him past that album. How come no one ever went for a mid Seventies/ early Eighties sound?

Anyway, hope to hear the new Dylan/Was thing soon.


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PostPosted: Fri January 26th, 2018, 01:09 GMT 
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ShotofMercy wrote:
Anyway, hope to hear the new Dylan/Was thing soon.


Agreed.


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PostPosted: Fri January 26th, 2018, 01:10 GMT 
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So will this new project be released before or after the new album with Lanois?


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PostPosted: Fri January 26th, 2018, 01:19 GMT 
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Jordan wrote:
So will this new project be released before or after the new album with Lanois?


Lanois and Don Nois collaboration


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PostPosted: Fri January 26th, 2018, 03:15 GMT 

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I remember seeing a poster in an Under the Red Sky post from years ago saying that the songs on UTRS would have benefitted greatly from an old-timey approach, like old blues and folk songs. The "trash-can" production it wound up with doesn't bother me, but I see that poster's point. Maybe that's what Dylan wanted to do and Was advised him otherwise. In the interview, Was mentions nearly vomiting when he heard himself cast Dylan's idea aside in the tape his friend gave him. I don't think he should beat himself up too much, though. Bob admitted to feeling burnt out after having recorded Oh Mercy and the two Wilburys albums. There's enough stories from those sessions that can give you the impression that he didn't exactly care how the album turned out, so the idea(s) he threw at Don Was probably didn't sit with him for too long anyway.

But to quote the man himself, "things have changed". It seems like Dylan actually communicates with the people he works with more than he ever did. He and Don Was could probably put together something really great if they wanted to. But whatever they did work on, it could be something as simple as a song on a tribute album or a guest spot on an album. I'm hoping for something else, but I'm up for anything.


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PostPosted: Fri January 26th, 2018, 03:32 GMT 
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Ah, the old "I can't talk about what I just talked about"!! Gotta love it.

I thought Red Sky was ok, actually.


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PostPosted: Fri January 26th, 2018, 05:56 GMT 

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smoke wrote:
Ah, the old "I can't talk about what I just talked about"!! Gotta love it.

I thought Red Sky was ok, actually.


I like it, I think it's fun and there have been much worse albums from other popular artists. I've seen publications conveniently forget the album existed when mentioning Dylan's late-career "comeback". They mention Oh Mercy then jump to Time Out of Mind, really leaving out three albums not including MTV Unplugged. Under the Red Sky in some ways is important because it took Dylan out of whatever spotlight he felt he was under, I remember seeing an interview in which he said the public forgot about him and now they'll never be able to catch up to him again. I guess a certain weight was lifted, and it gave him some freedom an opportunity to write without any real pressure.

Cat's in the Well is a fun blues song, and a very interesting way to close the album.


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PostPosted: Fri January 26th, 2018, 10:52 GMT 
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The worst thing about UTRS is Kenny Aronoff on drums. I hate that way of playing, the hard-rock session man schlock.
Unfortunately Don Was seems to rely on him often.


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PostPosted: Fri January 26th, 2018, 11:05 GMT 

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Intriguing segment and Was sounds like a good guy. More importantly, he seems to be someone who acknowledges past mistakes and learns from them.

The key words for me here are "fairly recently". MT, Tempest, Shadows/FA and Triplicate were all recorded early in the new year prior to resuming touring which would basically be now so I'm thinking more likely sometime in 2017. If an album, perhaps post the last leg but pre Xmas? Again, can't help but feel that's more very than fairly recently.

I keep coming back to those mysterious 3 May days in Ardmore Studios (Ireland). Maybe he did a few similarly brief bouts of recording/filming during or at the conclusion of other legs and Was was involved in one or more of those? Just idle speculation but hopefully something is stirring and ideally it's an album of original material. Tempest recorded 7 years ago....IT'S TIME!!!


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PostPosted: Fri January 26th, 2018, 16:01 GMT 

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Todd1973 wrote:
Don Was was interviewed for the WTF podcast today. It is a really cool interview with some good stuff about his upbringing in Detroit... and he shares how he thinks he x up producing Dylan.

He also mysteriously says he recently worked with Dylan on something but can't talk about it.

here is the link to the podcast: http://www.wtfpod.com/


'Tis true, before the fall tour started.


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PostPosted: Fri January 26th, 2018, 16:24 GMT 

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Geezerfreak wrote:
Todd1973 wrote:
Don Was was interviewed for the WTF podcast today. It is a really cool interview with some good stuff about his upbringing in Detroit... and he shares how he thinks he x up producing Dylan.

He also mysteriously says he recently worked with Dylan on something but can't talk about it.

here is the link to the podcast: http://www.wtfpod.com/


'Tis true, before the fall tour started.



When Geezerfreak speaks, we listen....

Can you tell us anymore?? An album or something else? Originals...?


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PostPosted: Fri January 26th, 2018, 16:45 GMT 
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Geezerfreak wrote:

'Tis true, before the fall tour started.


Good person! How are you Geeze?
Well, you’ve never steered us wrong and we understand
you can only say what you can and we don’t want to
compromise you in any way.

If you can say more, we are, of course, all ears.

Thanks for checking in!


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PostPosted: Fri January 26th, 2018, 16:47 GMT 

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Here's another Was/Dylan connection--if you listen closely to the chorus on The Black Crowes' "No Use Lying" from their Lions album, which Was produced, you can hear Bob buried in the mix. Or at least we think so. Never been confirmed.

At the time, Dylan was recording Love and Theft in the same building as the Crowes.


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PostPosted: Fri January 26th, 2018, 17:11 GMT 

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Don Was is a respected guy who knows what he's doing, and I've always liked "Under the Red Sky". It seems like Don's regrets about that album tend to come up a lot. Is it possible he'd like a shot at redemption with Bob? As far as I know, he's still running Blue Note records, so he's a producer with some gravitas these days. Maybe a perfect foil for the prickly Jack Frost in these modern times.


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PostPosted: Fri January 26th, 2018, 17:19 GMT 

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There was approx 2.5 months between the Summer and Fall legs which would certainly give enough time by Bob standards to get an album down...

It's the hope that kills.


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PostPosted: Fri January 26th, 2018, 17:40 GMT 

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Wikipedia says the last album he produced was Blue & Lonesome by The Stones in 2016. That got pretty good reviews I think? It had a back to basics vibe that might appeal to Bob... And there's nothing as yet noted for 2017 which is encouraging.

I also see from a quick google search that Mr. Was (as president of Blue Note Records) was in Hollywood on August 9th 2017 at Capitol Music Groups premiere of new music and projects. That would be during the Summer and Fall legs. And hasn't Bob recorded in California plenty of times over the years, and of particular note in Capitol Studios in recent times with SITN/FA and Triplicate....?


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PostPosted: Fri January 26th, 2018, 17:52 GMT 
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Don Was produced the last Greg Allman record if you havent heard it, you need too, its a lovely swansong


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PostPosted: Fri January 26th, 2018, 19:56 GMT 
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Re: The recent project. My GUESS is that there will be a Dylan live album in the spring (recorded at the London Palladium in 2017, augmented with recordings from the Dublin sessions, which took place right after the European tour). If true Don Was could have mixed that album. He also mixed the Unplugged album.


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PostPosted: Fri January 26th, 2018, 20:24 GMT 
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My Echo, My Shadow And Me wrote:
Re: The recent project. My GUESS is that there will be a Dylan live album in the spring (recorded at the London Palladium in 2017, augmented with recordings from the Dublin sessions, which took place right after the European tour). If true Don Was could have mixed that album. He also mixed the Unplugged album.

Good thinking. That may very well be it, most logical solution. Brilliant though,
can't wait. That would be the first official live album for 23 years.


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PostPosted: Fri January 26th, 2018, 20:43 GMT 
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Don Was produced the last Greg Allman record if you havent heard it, you need too, its a lovely swansong

And it contains "Going Going Gone" and "Black Muddy River"...
All these connections - I want to believe 8)


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PostPosted: Fri January 26th, 2018, 22:45 GMT 
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Sometimes it gets so hard to care.


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