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PostPosted: Tue October 7th, 2014, 03:47 GMT 
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I'm not sure how the comma changes the meaning, either way, "it isn't so". There's lots of mixed up confusion in this song, not in a way where the song is confused, just in a way that expressed the mixed up confusion of the situation.


Either way the instructions that the narrator is giving us are unclear and strange. "She might think I have forgotten her, do not tell her that is not so." So he wants me to tell her that he has forgotten her, but also wants me to tell her that he's alright, though things get kind of slow and to look him up if she has the time? You also want me to kiss her (even make love to her in some versions) for you? So after bedding her, am I suppose to look into her eyes and whisper, "That was for Bobby, baby."? That's kind of weird. Also, you're sending me to Tangiers and she might not even be there. Know wonder she broke up with you.


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PostPosted: Tue October 7th, 2014, 04:15 GMT 
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Oh, yes, it definitely changes the meaning but for the life of me I can't explain how.


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PostPosted: Tue October 7th, 2014, 04:47 GMT 
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I don't think it's that unclear: don't tell her how much I miss her, just tell her she can look me up and give her a kiss for me.

The version that mentions making love to her follows that up with a threat, if I remember correctly.


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PostPosted: Tue October 7th, 2014, 05:35 GMT 
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This is such a wonderful song, one of my favourites on Blood on the Tracks. I think that the album version is hard to beat, although some of the lyric rewrites are very interesting.

The opening reference to Tangiers always struck me as funny. I like the imaginary conversation Ricky Gervais came up with regarding this last point:

'She might be in Tangiers? You've gone for a rhyme now, haven't you Bob?'
'No, she might be in Tangiers.'
'Oh, right. Might she now? What do you think she's gone there for?'
'Well, um ... she's just living there.'
'You're not saying that because it rhymes with "here"?'
'No! She might be in Tangiers. She was saying she wanted somewhere hot.'


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PostPosted: Tue October 7th, 2014, 08:42 GMT 
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smoke wrote:
I'm not sure how the comma changes the meaning, either way, "it isn't so". There's lots of mixed up confusion in this song, not in a way where the song is confused, just in a way that expressed the mixed up confusion of the situation.


The meaning is as clear as day. He doesn't want her to hear from a third party how much he really is thinking about her. What's allowed is for the third party to give her information if she shows concern about the singer's wellbeing.


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PostPosted: Tue October 7th, 2014, 09:46 GMT 
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I love this song, but I can't take it. It's one of very few songs that'll bring me to tears, so I never listen to it (unless I'm drunk and depressed at home).


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PostPosted: Wed October 8th, 2014, 09:59 GMT 

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It's my favourite track on BotT, and I'd easily rather play an entire CD's worth of versions of this than hear Tangled Up in Blue live yet another time.


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PostPosted: Wed October 8th, 2014, 10:15 GMT 
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"I see a lot of people as I make the rounds"

I think it was bold of Dylan to write a song from the point of view of a milkman.


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PostPosted: Wed October 8th, 2014, 10:32 GMT 

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An interesting perspective, littlemaggie. I interpret the stanza you refer to as following:

I see a lot of people as I make the rounds
And I hear her name here and there as I go from town to town
And I’ve never gotten used to it, I’ve just learned to turn it off
Either I'm too sensitive or else I'm gettin' soft

Given that Dylan is a milkman, and he keeps hearing the name of his beloved as he drives his van around on deliveries, since her fame has spread abroad, she is most likely a high class escort girl; hence, he can't get used to it, which is why he's "getting soft" when he thinks of her instead of being aroused.


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PostPosted: Wed October 8th, 2014, 10:45 GMT 
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Perhaps the song is about the American flag.


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PostPosted: Wed October 8th, 2014, 11:31 GMT 
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No. It is about Sue, formerly of 22 Liddley Lane, and now residing - at the time of the song - in Tangier.


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PostPosted: Wed October 8th, 2014, 11:40 GMT 
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I like the version on the first Bootleg series release better than the album version.


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PostPosted: Wed October 8th, 2014, 16:18 GMT 
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Interesting connections that have dawned on me just now.

Scarborough Fair --> Girl from the North Country --> If You See Her, Say Hello


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PostPosted: Thu October 9th, 2014, 11:52 GMT 

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There's a whole chapter on this song, it's live variants and its antecedents in a book called "Troubadour".

You can order it here:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/0954494504/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new

(from homerts at £12*, not the ones at £167!)

I have heard it is very good :wink: :oops:


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PostPosted: Thu December 31st, 2015, 02:53 GMT 
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check out 1998 LA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC33cfJ_I_k


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PostPosted: Thu December 31st, 2015, 03:04 GMT 
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If You See Her, Say Hello had so many fine outings from 2002 through 2004... even some nice ones from 2005... its a pity Bob hasn't played it with this current line up. It's return to the set list is long overdue...

So Bob, how about it?


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PostPosted: Sat February 27th, 2016, 21:29 GMT 
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A few days ago, I read about the "I'm hunting bare/bear" homonym in Honest With Me and have felt giddy about it ever since.
When I was listening to some Pink Panther compilation today, If You See her, Say Hello came on and a lightning hit me....
Maybe
She left here last early Spring, is living there, I hear.
is supposed to double as
... is living there, I here.

It doesn't add much meaning-wise, but homonoyms are a rare breed in song lyrics afaik, so better than nothing. :lol: I guess I'm not the first one to "discover" it, but I haven't found it mentioned hERe...


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PostPosted: Sun February 28th, 2016, 14:43 GMT 
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Lakeland Florida - 18 April 1976

https://soundcloud.com/dyln61/hellolakeland76


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PostPosted: Sun February 28th, 2016, 14:54 GMT 
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^ thanks for this!


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PostPosted: Mon February 29th, 2016, 20:11 GMT 
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I love this song. I prefer the Minneapolis take published in BOTT than the New York versions, in spite of the rude splice or whatever it was the strange thing we can hear in this song.


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PostPosted: Mon August 15th, 2016, 13:22 GMT 
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It's such a lovely song - and the NY takes are sung so differently to the finally released version. I can't get enough of them.

One of those songs he should and could do creditably live now, says me.

Here's an alternative take on it, by yours truly - because, well, I just wanted to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM_RsrL ... FynlMEjBtm


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PostPosted: Tue August 16th, 2016, 12:49 GMT 
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Roseland 1994 19th Oct is nice if a bit raw


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PostPosted: Tue August 16th, 2016, 22:01 GMT 

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smoke wrote:
I don't think it's that unclear: don't tell her how much I miss her, just tell her she can look me up and give her a kiss for me.

The version that mentions making love to her follows that up with a threat, if I remember correctly.

there is:

if you're making love to her
kiss her for the kid
who always has respected her
for doing what she did

but also:

if you're making love to her
watch it from the rear,
you'll never know when i'll be back
or liable to appear


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PostPosted: Mon August 22nd, 2016, 06:37 GMT 
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Can't seem to get enough of this song lately, and the '76 rewrite is very special and cuts right through the emotions


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PostPosted: Tue August 23rd, 2016, 00:46 GMT 
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Untrodden Path wrote:
If You See Her, Say Hello had so many fine outings from 2002 through 2004... even some nice ones from 2005... its a pity Bob hasn't played it with this current line up. It's return to the set list is long overdue...

So Bob, how about it?


This would be pretty sensational.


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