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PostPosted: Mon July 9th, 2012, 10:36 GMT 

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I spoke last week to a veteran Bobcat after one of Bob’s shows, who allegedly had attended about 150 concerts, and asked him what his favourite period for Bob live performances was. His reply was that the 1996 shows were the best – a time that his voice was at a peak and he ‘sang like a lark’.

Having not seen the shows myself, I now feel my CD collection has a hole in it.

So what is your favourite period for live performances and are there good bootlegs around of the 1996 tour?


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PostPosted: Mon July 9th, 2012, 11:53 GMT 
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Best live performance's without are the Rolling Thunder tours, Best music ever created. The 1966 tour was amazing, my favourite shows from that; are The Bootleg Series Vol 4 (Manchester), Sheffield, Royal Albert Hall (2nd night) Not to be confused with the Bootleg Series Vol 4 which says the Royal Albert Hall, it was just bootlegged around for years as that. I love the 1978 tour, 84' tour which was my Dads first gig for Bob in Newcastle. And all of the NET is amazing.


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PostPosted: Mon July 9th, 2012, 11:57 GMT 
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John, some good boots/show recordings from 1996: Berlin, Mannheim, Copenhagen (August 23 and 24), Liverpool (June 26), Differdange. There are probably others, but those are the ones that immediately come to my mind.


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PostPosted: Mon July 9th, 2012, 12:07 GMT 
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John B. Stetson wrote:
John, some good boots/show recordings from 1996: Berlin, Mannheim, Copenhagen (August 23 and 24), Liverpool (June 26), Differdange. There are probably others, but those are the ones that immediately come to my mind.


Hey John, do you know where I can get the Liverpool show? The link has expired in the A-Z section.

This thread so far, has three John's.......


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PostPosted: Mon July 9th, 2012, 13:32 GMT 
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10haaf recently posted a bunch of fall 1996 shows:

search.php?keywords=1996&terms=all&author=10haaf&fid%5B%5D=14&sc=1&sf=titleonly&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search

I checked out 3 or 4 of them, I don't know which was "best" because they were all really good. Very enjoyable singing and certainly a nice change of pace from the current gruff delivery (charming as that may be). I'm not sure that every 2 1/2 minute blues ditty had to be stretched to 8 or 9 minutes in length...but all in all some very enjoyable Bob-listening. Happy hunting!

"Soul" from Berlin is one of the better regarded boots from that 1996, Shake Sugaree makes it indispensable all by itself.


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PostPosted: Mon July 9th, 2012, 15:01 GMT 
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The Summer European tour 1996 was very heavily bootlegged. probably as much as any other leg of the 'NET' I don't know about him singing like a lark, that's a stretch, but they were great shows nonetheless, with some odd surprises here and there. I don't have discs with me at moment to rip tracks, but Like A Rolling Stone from Passariano is very unique in it's arrangement/delivery. Some kind soul might post an MP3.


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PostPosted: Mon July 9th, 2012, 15:26 GMT 
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This thread so far, has three John's.......



A busy night!


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PostPosted: Mon July 9th, 2012, 16:00 GMT 
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My first show was also Newcastle 1984.

I suddenly feel incredibly old. So much so that I feel the need to go the pub, get obliterated and act half my age.


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PostPosted: Mon July 9th, 2012, 16:09 GMT 
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My first show was also Newcastle 1984.

I suddenly feel incredibly old. So much so that I feel the need to go the pub, get obliterated and act half my age.


It's a great show! I have the full gig on dvd.


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PostPosted: Mon July 9th, 2012, 16:32 GMT 

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Can't go wrong with 9-24 & 9-25-00.

Along with 10-5 & 10-6-00, the best soundings shows from that year. imo.


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PostPosted: Mon July 9th, 2012, 20:58 GMT 

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I think of 1996 as a fairly average part of the NET. I prefer 1995 and much of 1997 personally. That said, if you're picking one, go with Berlin (June 17, 1996, circulates as "Soul"). GREAT show, with a couple of all-time level performances. In 1996, Bob seems to me to spend much of the year just kind of floating through. Few of those shows are bad, but most nights, it just doesn't seem like Dylan was emotionally invested.

For my money, if you're restricting your options to the NET, my favorite years would be: 1999, 2000, 1997, 1995, 2003, 1988. I enjoy 1988, and feel like the 1989-early 1990 early were a lot like 1996-- good, but rarely spectacular. Late 1990 into 1991 are pretty putrid, and 1992, while it has a few redeemable moments, especially in the fall tour, isn't much better. 1993 is dull to me, although the Supper Club shows are special. 1994 and 1995 are consistent winners, with 1996 a bit of a fall off. Similarly, I like 1997, but 1998 feels a bit "paint-by-number" to me. I love 1999 and 2000. 2001 was a bit sloppy and 2002 was a mediocre year until the fall tour. Personally, I'd say 2003 was the last great year of Dylan and things have been in a fairly steady slide since, although on a given night, you might get a good show.

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I spoke last week to a veteran Bobcat after one of Bob’s shows, who allegedly had attended about 150 concerts, and asked him what his favourite period for Bob live performances was. His reply was that the 1996 shows were the best – a time that his voice was at a peak and he ‘sang like a lark’.

Having not seen the shows myself, I now feel my CD collection has a hole in it.

So what is your favourite period for live performances and are there good bootlegs around of the 1996 tour?


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PostPosted: Mon July 9th, 2012, 21:33 GMT 
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"Dylan listening guide" by gopherstick:

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Here's my ever-changing quickie list of my favorite bootlegs from 1996:
1. "Soul" - June 17
2. "Christiania" - July 23 & 24
3. "The Maine Event" - April 19
4. "Loving of Liverpool" - June 26
5. "It Takes a Lot to Laugh" - July 1
6. "The Empire Strikes Back" - June 27
7. "You May Call Me Zimmy" - June 24
8. "Always On My Mind volumes 1 & 2" - July 3
9. "House of the Blues" - August 3
10. "Something is Happening Here..." - June 22
11. "Eyes of the Idol" - July 12

And here are some of my favorite unbooted concerts:
1. July 2 - Mannheim
2. April 13 - Madison
3. June 15 - Aarhus
4. May 1 - Poughkeepsie
5. June 19 - Frankfurt
6. November 6 - Charleston
7. April 14 - New Haven
8. May 3 - Lewisburg
9. November 4 - Spartanburg
10. October 19 - Jean
11. July 19 - Molde
12. November 9 - Milwaukee
13. November 22 - South Bend
14. November 3 - Chattanooga
15. May 16 - Clarkston
16. April 18 - Providence
17. April 17 - Burlington

1996 - reviews:
http://web.archive.org/web/200712141336 ... 201996.htm


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PostPosted: Tue July 10th, 2012, 01:07 GMT 
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You can't go wrong with anything from 1988, 1995, 1997-2000, 2004, or 2005.

1989 is kind of sloppy and is the first year where you can really hear Bob slipping vocally (compare how he sounds at that Radio City show from 1988 I rave about to how he sounds by the time Oh Mercy starts to hit the set), but there's some gems, most notably the Hague show (June 10), Athens (June 28) and Poughkeepsie (October 20).

1990 starts off with an incredible run in Europe and has some good shows in the fall (West Point on October 13th is stunning), but you hear some of 1991's sloppiness and general lack of care begin to seep in.

1991 gets pretty good in the fall after being a pretty universally dire year. Madison is very well regarded.

1992 starts off with an astounding run down under, only to crash and burn once they returned stateside in the Spring (aside from the San Jose show). By the fall you get to hear the first remnants of Dylan's comeback begin to fall into place, and Sarasota show on November 9th is a must-have.

1993 and early 1994 or sort of just there with no real standouts, and 1993 in particular suffers from excessive jamming and songs going on way longer than needed. Still, the Mansfield soundboard from that year is a pretty entertaining document of that era. By the time of Woodstock the shows get more energetic and the Roseland soundboards as well as the Boston are particularly stunning.

I agree with many who say 1996 is another year with nothing really special. It's consistent, and there are some excellent shows, but Bob's sort of in a comfort zone. Berlin, Differdange, Mannheim, Christiana, Liverpool, Passariano, and Madgeburg are terrific shows from the summer Europe run.

2001 and 2002 both start off kind of shaky but end with two of the greatest series of performances of Bob's career. Fall '01 welcomes Love and Theft to the set, and also finds Bob rejuvinated by the post-9/11 atmosphere, which finds him and the band giving their damnedest in the face of tragedy. Spokane and NYC are incredibly emotional, and Washington is also a stunner.

Fall '02 has the intro of the piano and it's just glorious; the covers are an added bonus.

2003 takes a long time to get on its feet. The early half of the year has them struggling to break away from the acoustic sound with Sexton. Bringing Koella in is a start but things don't start cooking until that red hot fall European leg. The last three shows (Shepherd's Bush, Hammersmith and Brixton) are simply divine.


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PostPosted: Tue July 10th, 2012, 01:39 GMT 
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Roving Gambler wrote:
2003 takes a long time to get on its feet. The early half of the year has them struggling


:shock:

Try Jillian's Parking Lot - Louisville, KY April 30, 2003


Hot stuff!!


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PostPosted: Tue July 10th, 2012, 13:58 GMT 
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Isis_ wrote:
songanddanceman wrote:
My first show was also Newcastle 1984.

I suddenly feel incredibly old. So much so that I feel the need to go the pub, get obliterated and act half my age.


It's a great show! I have the full gig on dvd.


I thought it was a great gig at the time and it still holds up for me now. Being my first show, it will always rank somewhere in my top ten of shows attended.
I'll have to dig my dvd out sometime soon, it's been a while.


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PostPosted: Tue July 10th, 2012, 13:59 GMT 
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smoke wrote:
Roving Gambler wrote:
2003 takes a long time to get on its feet. The early half of the year has them struggling


:shock:

Try Jillian's Parking Lot - Louisville, KY April 30, 2003


Hot stuff!!

Yeah, that's a good one. The New Orleans shows from 4 / 25 and 26 are also great, particularly Night 2 with Dickie Landry joining in on sax.

Then there's that run with the Dead in the summer that I just find dull, he's totally on autopilot. There's some good ones toward's summer's end, though: the 3 shows at the Hammerstein, Wallingford with the last ever "Born in Time" to date, the Oakes Garden show that's out as a soundboard, and Guilford.


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PostPosted: Tue July 10th, 2012, 14:01 GMT 
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smoke wrote:
Roving Gambler wrote:
2003 takes a long time to get on its feet. The early half of the year has them struggling


:shock:

Try Jillian's Parking Lot - Louisville, KY April 30, 2003


Hot stuff!!


I can't believe I haven't listened to this one; going to take your word for it, Smoke, and check it out later.


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PostPosted: Tue July 10th, 2012, 14:05 GMT 
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I was unlucky enough to be at some of those shows with the dead. They were poor to be honest. Sloppy, lazy and uninspired.


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PostPosted: Tue July 10th, 2012, 15:42 GMT 
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Roving Gambler wrote:

Then there's that run with the Dead in the summer that I just find dull, he's totally on autopilot.



Something about the summertime tours where he's double billed with big acts often seems to bring out the lazy-boy in Bob Dylan.


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PostPosted: Tue July 10th, 2012, 15:46 GMT 

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Oakes Garden soundboard from 2003? I only know of an audience tape in circulation..


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PostPosted: Tue July 10th, 2012, 23:54 GMT 
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smoke wrote:
Roving Gambler wrote:

Then there's that run with the Dead in the summer that I just find dull, he's totally on autopilot.



Something about the summertime tours where he's double billed with big acts often seems to bring out the lazy-boy in Bob Dylan.

I'd mostly agree, though I really love the 2004 shows with Willie Nelson.


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1998 was a terrific year. I am listening Can't Wait from the show from 14.1.98 at the moment, and not only does the band find a fantastic groove, but Dylan's voice is full of rhythmic tricks too, using his gutteral growl to either fire syllables pell-mell into the microphone or let them linger in his throat: the effect is quite startling, something akin to jazz scat singing, where the sound of the words is of more importance than their meaning. Even Silvio sounds musically and vocally interesting on this recording!

In my despair at hearing some of the recent recordings, I had somehow lost faith in my earler belief in these shows from earlier in the NET.

Also, 1995 was a great year - I loved that pounding version of Down In The Flood that opened the shows at Brixton.


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PostPosted: Thu July 12th, 2012, 16:25 GMT 
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Here's that version of Can't Wait...

http://www.mediafire.com/?ayhg7po2bhe8q86


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PostPosted: Thu July 12th, 2012, 16:46 GMT 
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I'd pretty much align with Roving Gambler's and El_Joe's overviews. I do think that there is something good to be found any year (though I am not too familiar with post 2005 shows). In 1995 and 1999-2000 I can randomly listen to any show and it sounds great to me. My favorite show is probably Berkeley, May 26, 1995--just think it's beautiful.


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John B. Stetson wrote:
My favorite show is probably Berkeley, May 26, 1995--just think it's beautiful.


I just got this now because of you, and it's amazing! Thanks.


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