Expecting Rain

Do you want him to talk or do you want him to sing ?

What's with this trick question?

Jokes please...

Freddy eats a lot of chicken. That's why he's always in a foul mood.

Yep, I agree..... I hate it when artist don't know when to shut up and play..... I have had a couple of time when we were close enough to the front to see stuff going on..... and sometimes the little dances and laughs between the songs is some of the best stuff....

Two Finnish men are sitting drinking vodka. They are very quite. They are focused on their drinking. So hour after hour goes by and none of them is saying a word.
Finally after they have been sitting so quite for four long hours Jucka says to Perra:" It taste good." And Jucka snaps back at Perra"Are we gonna drink or talk"?

No. Not really.

What bothers me is he doesn't check for dandruff.

lol
I swear that looked like glitter to me, not dandruff. It was shiny.

That's because Bob gives off a glow.....ergo

I think it would be cool if, during the encore Like a Rolling Stone, Bob would crowd surf.

Then, at least, people would stop commenting on how he "doesn't talk".

^^^ That i would like to see!

I don't mind that Bob doesn't talk...his "thank you, friends" is fine.

What gets on my nerves is when you go to a concert and you have to listen to
lectures about politics. Or phoney chit-chat with the band/ audience.
I'm so happy that Bob doesn't do that BS !

Nonsense? Is that how far toward the bourgeois mild-enjoyment we've gone? C'mon. What I described is literally the primal purpose of art -- maybe not the consumerist one.

As for applause, of course it is. Of course it's crucial to the experience and performance. Totally ritualized, so much so that when a ritual is broken, it is shocking (Judas!, e.g.) and affects the performers in unexpected ways. But that has nothing to do with what I was saying.

And do you really think Dylan wouldn't keep playing if it wasn't for the money? Of course he likes making the cash. But do you really think he's in it for the money at this point?

There is plenty of occasion for mild-mannered, middle of the road assessment. This is not one of them.

Art is for ecstasy, or else it's not art.

Yes

That and road beef.

well of course its for the money. you dont go on the road for any other reason. but a bob show would be the same if it was free. same show. money doesnt alter the show but yes money is the reason to go on the road.
and hes done very well hes build up his show where its a big moneymaker. i dont go for talk onstage unless its someone like van morrison.

I've always liked Sean Penn's comment addressing just that: "If you want entertainment, get two hookers and an eightball.”

Van the man doesn't talk on stage?

or that ska type band, i cant think of the name that did horde back in the day. during the second song, security werent allowing the fans to come up on stage so the singer went up and punched the security in the head. then the other security went up on the stage but the other members of the group went up on them. great fisfight. and some great cussing. set was over after two songs but one of the great performances ever. if i could only remember the name of the group. they did horde when neil young was on it.


that was art. not ecstatic art but great art.the security was pushing the fan over and as he
turned his head he got whopped in the head. right in front of me.
that type of audience-artist interaction i can live with but niceties i can do without.

He may just be afraid that if he stops, the wheels will fall off the truck.

I know that he's stated in interviews that he intends to do it as long he has can, because it's what Allah intended him to. Or something to that effect.

I know plenty of artists whose art makes them money (a few even good money). All of them would make art under any circumstances, put on shows, play, exhibit, wherever and whenever they were given a decent opportunity. Of course once you can make money at it, you want the best deal, you want to make sure you can pay for the show, give a good deal to the people working with you, be comfortable. Of course that's true. And being able to make a living making art you feel compelled to make anyway is a crazy blessing. That doesn't mean you have to be a numbskull on the business side, but neither does it mean that the art, fundamentally, is for the money.

To reduce the whole thing to a just a business transaction -- Dylan plays for my money, therefore, when I give him my money I deserve a thank you and my money's worth -- is disgusting. If that's what you're doing at an artist's exhibition/show, you're doing it wrong. If that's what the artist is doing, she or he is doing it wrong.

My guess is that Truman is playing the voice of reason here, and agrees with the basic point.

But, again, art is for standing out side of the status quo, you know, ek-stasis.

The show is both for and not for money? Both determined by and unaffected by money?

nobody goes on the road to lose money its just not done. you go to make some dough.
now the question is to what extent will you bend to make some dough, will you do sing alongs and aud hand clap. in bob case he hasnt bent at all, if hes in the mood hell say thank you. if hes not he wont. i dont really think he cares if anyone is happy or unhappy with the show except himself.

the NET had a pretty rough start. but even those 91 shows that people dis, they were high art.

So, you're not in anyway disagreeing with me, but you disagree just in general?

well yes. bob whole thing is art, no matter what. obviously his not talking to the aud is art.

He always says thank you (at how many shows, ever, has he not said thank you?) and he doesn't play like All Along the Watchtower for his own artistic satisfaction, either.

He's a musician, he plays music. If his circumstance was to play music in a backstreet bar he probably would, but life turned out differently for him.