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 Post subject: tarantula
PostPosted: Tue March 27th, 2012, 17:00 GMT 

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is it a song without music; bob's magnum opus? should he have sung it?


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 Post subject: Re: tarantula
PostPosted: Tue March 27th, 2012, 17:17 GMT 
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in what key would that be in?


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 Post subject: Re: tarantula
PostPosted: Tue March 27th, 2012, 17:21 GMT 

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Lily Rose wrote:
in what key would that be in?


the key of life, of course, back in the days of his transcendent genius.

these are words that scream to be heard but i guess people think because it's a book it should be read silently and not proclaimed. people are hung up about this stuff.


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 Post subject: Re: tarantula
PostPosted: Tue March 27th, 2012, 17:22 GMT 
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But some of it did become songs.


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 Post subject: Re: tarantula
PostPosted: Tue March 27th, 2012, 17:23 GMT 

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moonlightransom wrote:
But some of it did become songs.


it is one unified song


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 Post subject: Re: tarantula
PostPosted: Tue March 27th, 2012, 17:42 GMT 
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With that logic, you must consider Like A Rolling Stone to be a bastardized version of the original "long piece of vomit".


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 Post subject: Re: tarantula
PostPosted: Tue March 27th, 2012, 19:25 GMT 

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moonlightransom wrote:
With that logic, you must consider Like A Rolling Stone to be a bastardized version of the original "long piece of vomit".


even kerouac edited; genius is pain, you know


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 Post subject: Re: tarantula
PostPosted: Tue March 27th, 2012, 19:35 GMT 

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Anyone managed to read it all the way through ?


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 Post subject: Re: tarantula
PostPosted: Tue March 27th, 2012, 19:38 GMT 

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barney wrote:
Anyone managed to read it all the way through ?


it's not meant to be read per se; it's meant to be declaimed. reading it to one's self silently robs the work of its power and glory

maybe arlo could do a books on tape sort of thing


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 Post subject: Re: tarantula
PostPosted: Tue March 27th, 2012, 19:55 GMT 

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elmer wrote:
barney wrote:
Anyone managed to read it all the way through ?


it's not meant to be read per se; it's meant to be declaimed. reading it to one's self silently robs the work of its power and glory

maybe arlo could do a books on tape sort of thing


That`ll be a no then :D


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 Post subject: Re: tarantula
PostPosted: Tue March 27th, 2012, 20:22 GMT 

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elmer wrote:
barney wrote:

it's not meant to be read per se; it's meant to be declaimed. reading it to one's self silently robs the work of its power and glory

maybe arlo could do a books on tape sort of thing


That`ll be a no then :D


don't assume anything; how do you think i made my discovery


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 Post subject: Re: tarantula
PostPosted: Tue March 27th, 2012, 20:24 GMT 
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elmer wrote:
barney wrote:
Anyone managed to read it all the way through ?


it's not meant to be read per se; it's meant to be declaimed.
reading it to one's self silently robs the work of its power and glory

maybe arlo could do a books on tape sort of thing

barney wrote:
That`ll be a no then :D

.. i've read it through (out loud AND to myself) ... 8)
several times - and Elmer is on the right track with this.*
- Please don't make me regret saying that, Elmer - i know
= you like to get out the Zebras for the Safari Contraire', but...
- i'm in Siesta Slumbermode until they drop the puck in St. Paul.

.. and if Barney meant 'reading the entire thing straight through'
- i've only done that once. Out Loud (probably very..) at a Party..
and the only thing anyone who was there would have ever testified
to - was that they wanted to kill me. But no one (including myself)
was capable of of coherent physical violence - besides it was My Party
So - i continued at will until. How many 'guests' (a ridiculous descripto
of anyone at a party i threw..) were 'alive' at the end of the book? :roll:
- i remember there was one guy and his dog - and me. He had a big slab
of nearly raw steak in one hand - and a bottle of lime vodka in the other. :D
He took a bite .. the dog got a bite .. i took a bite .. he handed me the bottle.
Maybe i was figgerin' he wouldn't hand me the bottle if i didn't take a bite..
Things were like that sometimes....................... it was great. .. 8)
*.. except i don't think it loses anything in a silent way (Silent Way! Miles Davis!)
= of course i walk around all day talkin' to myself out loud, so whaddoo i know, eh?


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 Post subject: Re: tarantula
PostPosted: Tue March 27th, 2012, 20:39 GMT 

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.. i've read it through (out loud AND to myself) ... 8)
several times - and Elmer is on the right track with this.*
- Please don't make me regret saying that, Elmer - i know
= you like to get out the Zebras for the Safari Contraire', but...
- i'm in Siesta Slumbermode until they drop the puck in St. Paul.

.. and if Barney meant 'reading the entire thing straight through'
- i've only done that once. Out Loud (probably very..) at a Party..
and the only thing anyone who was there would have ever testified
to - was that they wanted to kill me. But no one (including myself)
was capable of of coherent physical violence - besides it was My Party
So - i continued at will until. How many 'guests' (a ridiculous descripto
of anyone at a party i threw..) were 'alive' at the end of the book? :roll:
- i remember there was one guy and his dog - and me. He had a big slab
of nearly raw steak in one hand - and a bottle of lime vodka in the other. :D
He took a bite .. the dog got a bite .. i took a bite .. he handed me the bottle.
Maybe i was figgerin' he wouldn't hand me the bottle if i didn't take a bite..
Things were like that sometimes....................... it was great. .. 8)
*.. except i don't think it loses anything in a silent way (Silent Way! Miles Davis!)
= of course i walk around all day talkin' to myself out loud, so whaddoo i know, eh? [/quote]

are you andy kauffman? i knew you weren't dead!


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 Post subject: Re: tarantula
PostPosted: Tue March 27th, 2012, 21:04 GMT 

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This is possibly the most bizarre thread I`ve ever been a part of.


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 Post subject: Re: tarantula
PostPosted: Tue March 27th, 2012, 21:15 GMT 
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I knew there was love for Dylan somewhere in you Elmer


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 Post subject: Re: tarantula
PostPosted: Tue March 27th, 2012, 22:31 GMT 
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Ok. Now - Remember.. on your 'Elmer's Honor'
- ya' gotta promise to read along OUT LOUD. .. 8)

Guns, the Falcon's Mouthbook
& Gashcat Unpunished


aretha/ crystal jukebox queen of hymn & him
diffused in drunk transfusion wound would heed
sweet soundwave crippled & cry salute to oh
great particular el dorado reel & ye battered
personal god but she cannot she the leader of
whom when ye follow, she cannot she has no
back she cannot ... beneath black flowery rail-
road fans & fig leaf shades & dogs of all nite
joes, grow like arches & cures the harmonica
battalions of bitter cowards, bones & bygones
while what steadier louder the moans & arms of
funeral landlord with one passionate kiss re-
hearse from dusk & climbing into the bushes
with some favorite enemy ripping the postage
stamps & crazy mailmen & waving all rank &
familiar ambition than that itself, is needed to
know that mother is not a lady ... aretha with
no goals, eternally single & one step soft of
heaven/ let it be understood that she owns this
melody along with her emotional diplomats &
her earth & her musical secrets

.. the censor in a twelve wheel drive semi
.. stopping in for donuts & pinching the
.. waitress/ he likes his women raw & with
.. syrup/ he has his mind set on becoming
.. a famous soldier

...to be continued. 'Tarantula' by Bob Dylan 1966..
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 Post subject: Re: tarantula
PostPosted: Tue March 27th, 2012, 23:11 GMT 
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Ok. Now - Remember.. on your 'Elmer's Honor'
- ya' gotta promise to read along OUT LOUD. .. 8)

... 'Tarantula' by Bob Dylan 1966 cont. .....

manuscript nitemare of cut throat high & low
& behold the prophesying blind allegiance to
law fox, monthly cupid & the intoxicating ghosts
of dogma ... nay & may the boatmen in bath-
robes be banished forever & anointed into the
shelves of alive hell, the unimaginative sleep,
repetition without change & fat sheriffs who
watch for doom in the mattress ... hallaluyah
& bossman of the hobos cometh & ordaining the
spiritual gypsy davy camp now being infiltrated
by foreign dictator, the pink FBI & the inter-
rogatiing unknown failures of peacetime as holy
& silver & blessed with the texture of kaleido-
scope & the sandal girl ... to dream of dancing
pillhead virgins & wandering apollo at the pipe
organ/ unscientific ramblers & the pretty things
lucky & lifting their lips & handing down looks
& regards from the shoulders of adam & eve's
minstrel peekaboo ... passing on the chance to
bludgeon the tough spirits & the deed holders
into fishlike buffoons & yanking ye erratic pur-
pose ... surrendering to persuasion, the crime
against people that be ranked alongside murder
& while doctors, teachers, bankers & sewer clean-
ers fight for their rights, they must now where
tab hunter leads with his thunderbird/ pearl
bailey stomps him against a buick & where pov-
erty, a perfection of neptune's unused clients,
plays hide & seek & escaping into the who goes
there? & now's not the time to act silly, so wear
your big boots & jump on the garbage clowns,
the hourly rate & the enema men & where junior
senators & goblins rip off tops of question marks
& their wives make pies & go now & throw some
pies in the face & ride the blinds & into aretha's
religious thighs & movement find ye your nymph
of no conscience & bombing out your young
sensitive dignity just to see once & for all if there
are holes & music in the universe & watch her
tame the sea horse/ aretha, pegged by choir
boys & other pearls of mamas as too gloomy a
much of witchy & dont you now no happy
songs

.. the layer leading a pig on a leash
.. stopping in for tea & eating the censor's
.. donut by mistake/ he likes to lie about
.. his age & takes his paranoia seriously


...to be continued. 'Tarantula' by Bob Dylan 1966..
8)


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 Post subject: Re: tarantula
PostPosted: Tue March 27th, 2012, 23:15 GMT 
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I think I read it all the way, ten years back. I read about five books explaining it since, all written by the same guy.


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 Post subject: Re: tarantula
PostPosted: Wed March 28th, 2012, 02:48 GMT 
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Johanna Parker wrote:
I think I read it all the way, ten years back. I read about
five books explaining it since, all written by the same guy.

.. Sorry - but i don't know what's harder to understand.
Why someone would write 5 books 'explaining' Tarantula..
- or why someone would read them all. So - what is it?
It can't possibly be the 'explanation' - he must take the
Greil Marcus 'Big Hat To Nowhere' trip - using Tarantula
as an excuse to write (entertainingly?) about something
on an elastic relevancy - stretched out to the BOING!! .. 8)
- Maybe you could give us a HINT of his perspective?


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 Post subject: Re: tarantula
PostPosted: Wed March 28th, 2012, 03:05 GMT 
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allow me to pick up that buried joke and have a laugh. well played.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :arrow: 8)


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 Post subject: Re: tarantula
PostPosted: Wed March 28th, 2012, 10:28 GMT 
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I read all Dylan books.


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 Post subject: Re: tarantula
PostPosted: Wed March 28th, 2012, 12:28 GMT 
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Grumpy-the-Buick wrote:
Why someone would write 5 books 'explaining' Tarantula..


Quite. If it takes five books to try and explain one, you can't be explaining- or understanding- it too well.


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 Post subject: Re: tarantula
PostPosted: Wed March 28th, 2012, 12:38 GMT 

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LineCookJosh wrote:
I knew there was love for Dylan somewhere in you Elmer


check the record. i love the pre-accident transcendent bob; the rest is forgettable and without merit


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 Post subject: Re: tarantula
PostPosted: Wed March 28th, 2012, 12:41 GMT 

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Johanna Parker wrote:
I think I read it all the way, ten years back. I read about five books explaining it since, all written by the same guy.


no wonder


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 Post subject: Re: tarantula
PostPosted: Sat March 31st, 2012, 05:41 GMT 
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Ok. Now - Remember.. on your 'Elmer's Honor'
- ya' gotta promise to read along OUT LOUD. .. 8)

... 'Tarantula' by Bob Dylan 1966 cont. .....

the hospitable grave being advertised & given
away in shims & journals the housewife sit on.
finding herself financed, ruptured but never
censored in & also never flushing herself/ she
denies her corpse the courage to crawl--close his
own door, the ability to die of bank robbery &
now catches the heels of old stars making scary
movies on her dirt & her face & not everybody
can dig her now. she is private property . . .
bazookas in the nest & weapons of ice & of
weatherproof flinch & they twitter, make scars
& kill babies among lady shame good looks & her
constant foe, tom sawyer of the breakfast cereal
causing all females paying no attention to this
toilet massacre to be hereafter called LONZO &
must walk the streets of life forever with lazy
people having nothing to do but fight over
women ... everybody knows by now that wars
are caused by money & greed & charity organiz-
tions/ the housewife is not here, she is running
for congress

.. the senator dressed like an austrian
.. sheep. stopping in for coffee & insulting
.. the lawyer/ he is on a prune diet &
.. secretly wishes he was bing crosby
.. but would settle for being a close
.. relative of edgar bergen

...to be continued. 'Tarantula' by Bob Dylan 1966..
8)


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