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 Post subject: Re: World Gone Wrong
PostPosted: Tue June 26th, 2012, 14:15 GMT 
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I just turned the top end right down and wound the bass right up - seems to work. The bass is still a bit thin, though. I'm curious as to whether the vinyl is better than the CD.


I've heard it is, but I haven't heard it.

Needle drops are encouraged!


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 Post subject: Re: World Gone Wrong
PostPosted: Tue June 26th, 2012, 15:26 GMT 
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I love this album :P , specially :
"world gone wrong",
"blood in my eyes"...,
"delia" and many others.


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 Post subject: Re: World Gone Wrong
PostPosted: Tue June 26th, 2012, 15:28 GMT 
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I don't like it. Lifeless and bores me to tears. I'll try loving it again in a few years.


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 Post subject: Re: World Gone Wrong
PostPosted: Tue June 26th, 2012, 15:35 GMT 
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I don't like it. Lifeless and bores me to tears. I'll try loving it again in a few years.


I love it.
Very sweet for my ears. :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: World Gone Wrong
PostPosted: Tue June 26th, 2012, 15:38 GMT 
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JackaRoe61 wrote:
TheGunfighter wrote:
I don't like it. Lifeless and bores me to tears. I'll try loving it again in a few years.


I love it.
Very sweet for my ears. :wink:

Rhymes nicely with my post!

Oh, and my post rhymed with my post...


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 Post subject: Re: World Gone Wrong
PostPosted: Tue June 26th, 2012, 15:59 GMT 
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TheGunfighter wrote:
I don't like it. Lifeless and bores me to tears. I'll try loving it again in a few years.


I love it.
Very sweet for my ears. :wink:[/quote]
Rhymes nicely with my post!

Oh, and my post rhymed with my post...[/quote]

Yes ! i hear the rhyme of our posts
So, it will be nice to try to love it
Without waiting for few years :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: World Gone Wrong
PostPosted: Tue June 26th, 2012, 18:23 GMT 
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i like this album. It's not on my list of Bobs finest albums, but it has a certain appeal to me. The sound is "rawer" than on its predecessor, not as polished.
And of course the liner notes are among the best stuff Dylan ever wrote.


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 Post subject: Re: World Gone Wrong
PostPosted: Tue June 26th, 2012, 19:21 GMT 
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I don't like it as much as it's predecessor, though it it has a handful of good cuts, things like Broke Down Engine and Love Henry. Wish it had been recorded a little kinder, to me the sound is hard and glassy.

Both albums of course, were recorded in Dylan's private studio at his house in Malibu.


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 Post subject: Re: World Gone Wrong
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WrittenInMySoul wrote:
And of course the liner notes are among the best stuff Dylan ever wrote.


No kidding! Still a Dylan novice when I got that album, I remember reading those and going - what a minute, this guy is either so far gone he's insane, or he is vastly sharper than his rep as a drugged-out 60s has-been leads us to believe. Stuff like

They say 'let's sleep on it' but they're already living in the sanitarium

is gold 8)


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 Post subject: Re: World Gone Wrong
PostPosted: Tue June 26th, 2012, 19:53 GMT 
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Wish it had been recorded a little kinder, to me the sound is hard and glassy.


You'd be better off boosting the bass ever so carefully.

I go with Love Henry, Ragged & Dirty, Delia, Two Soldiers, Jack-a-Roe and Lone Pilgrim and with those I think the album belongs with Dylan's indispensables.


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 Post subject: Re: World Gone Wrong
PostPosted: Tue June 26th, 2012, 23:49 GMT 
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You'd be better off boosting the bass ever so carefully.



Yes. Or if you're burning them to digital files, a little taming of the upper midrange / lower treble EQ will accomplish kind of the same thing, without making the guitar sound too unnaturally boomy.


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 Post subject: Re: World Gone Wrong
PostPosted: Wed June 27th, 2012, 02:26 GMT 
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I like this album quite a bit, it's often forgot, I think, because it's sandwiched in between two superior albums. (Even though AGAIBTY is often forgotten)


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 Post subject: Re: World Gone Wrong
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This is a favorite album of mine. Perhaps because it steps away from everything prior. The songs stand on their own.. im not reminded of anything else when i listen to it. Even if the songs are from prior times/artists, the arrangement is all him. If some see this as *dark* then so be it.. Ill sit in the dark with him any day. What i like to see it as..is a clearing of the clouds overhead. You already saw the dark.. things are getting better soon. 8)


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 Post subject: Re: World Gone Wrong
PostPosted: Wed June 27th, 2012, 04:57 GMT 
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Love Jim Jones, Canadee-I-O (I think he beat Nic Jones on that), Top of the World, Hard Times, and Diamond Joe on GAIBTY; the rest of it is passable

Love Broke Down Engine, Stagger Lee, and Two Soldiers on WGW; Delia's OK but I prefer Dave Alvin's take, the rest is passable

Guitar playing is extravagantly sloppy on both records, even for Dylan


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 Post subject: Re: World Gone Wrong
PostPosted: Wed June 27th, 2012, 12:48 GMT 

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Sure would love to see some video footage of Bob Dylan when he recorded these two albums. He loves to record in one or few takes; but golly these albums are dern near perfect; guitar and voice. Has anybody seen much footage of latter-day Bob Dylan in a recording studio of any kind? The Danny Lanois stuff from New Orleans would be cool to see. We have some record conventions come thru Pittsburgh twice a year and someone is always selling some video tapes and mediocre bootleg cd's. I'd love to get some video of Bob recording. Hey, thanks for listening!


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 Post subject: Re: World Gone Wrong
PostPosted: Fri July 13th, 2012, 22:54 GMT 
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Just got this in the mail today and just finished listening through for the first time. Love it instantly!! Great songs, great guitar, great singing.

The liner notes are fantastic!


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 Post subject: Re: World Gone Wrong
PostPosted: Fri July 13th, 2012, 23:15 GMT 
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Oh my gosh, I don't have these bootlegs yet! This is so great! Must go hunt down immediately :!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hixn1oBGfII


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 Post subject: Re: World Gone Wrong
PostPosted: Fri July 13th, 2012, 23:49 GMT 
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Just got this in the mail today and just finished listening through for the first time. Love it instantly!! Great songs, great guitar, great singing.

The liner notes are fantastic!


Great cover, and his best ever liner notes. The writing is so alert, free and wide ranging but finely focussed.


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 Post subject: Re: World Gone Wrong
PostPosted: Fri July 13th, 2012, 23:51 GMT 
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Just got this in the mail today and just finished listening through for the first time. Love it instantly!! Great songs, great guitar, great singing.

The liner notes are fantastic!


those liner notes are somethin', aren't they? And the album's pretty darn good too--Jack-A-Roe, Delia, Blood in My Eyes, the sublime Lone Pilgrim, and of course, the haberdasheric and dear to my heart Stack-A-Lee!


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 Post subject: Re: World Gone Wrong
PostPosted: Fri July 13th, 2012, 23:55 GMT 
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Okay, if anyone hasn't read them here they are!

http://www.bjorner.com/WFMH%20-%20Album ... c284489503


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 Post subject: Re: World Gone Wrong
PostPosted: Sat July 14th, 2012, 00:02 GMT 
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Actually, if you'll forgive me, I'm just going to post them -



World Gone Wrong
ABOUT THE SONGS (what they're about)

BROKE DOWN ENGINE is a Blind Willie McTell masterpiece. it's about trains, mystery on the rails-the trains of love, the train that carried my girl from town-The Southern Pacific, Baltmore & Ohio whatever-it's about variations of human longing-the low hum in meters & syllables. it's about dupes of commerce & politics colliding on tracks, not being pushed around by ordinary standards. it's about revival, getting a new lease on life, not just posing there-paint chipped & flaked, mattress bare, single bulb swinging above the bed. it's about Ambiguity, the fortunes of the priviliged elite, flood control-watching the red dawn not bothering to dress. LOVE HENRY is a "traditionalist" ballad. Tom Paley used to do it, a perverse tale. Henry-modern corporate man off some foreign boat, unable to handle his "psychosis" responsible for organizing the Intelligentsia, disarming the people, an infantile sensualist-white teeth, wide smile, lotza money, kowtows to fairy queen exploiters & corrupt religious establishments, career-minded, limousine double parked, imposing his will & dishonest garbage in popular magazines. he lays his head on a pillow of down & falls asleep. he shoulda known better, he must've had a hearing problem. STACK-A-LEE is Frank Hutchinson's version. what does the song say exactly? it says no man gains immortality thru public acclaim. truth is shadowy. in the pre-postindustrial age, victims of violence were allowed (in fact it was their duty) to be judges over their offenders-parents were punished for their children's crimes (we've come a long way since then) the song says that a man's hat is his crown. futurologists would insist it's a matter of tatse. they say "let's sleep on it" but they're already living in the sanatirium. No Rights Without Duty is the name of the game & fame is a trick. playing for time is only horsing around. Stack's in a cell, no wall phone. he's not some egotistical degraded existentialist dionysian idiot. neither does he represent any alternative lifestyle scam (give me a thousand acres of tractable land & all the gang members that exist and you'll see the Authentic alternative lifestyle, the Agrarian one) Billy didn't have an insurance plan, didn't get airsick yet his ghost is more real and genuine than all the dead souls on the boob tube - a monumental epic of blunder and misunderstanding, a romance tale without the cupidity. BLOOD IN MY EYES is one of two songs done by the Mississippi Sheiks, a little known de facto group whom in their former glory must've been something to behold. rebellion against routine seems to be their strong theme. all their songs are raw in the bone & are faultlessly made for these modern times (the New Dark Ages) nothing effete about the Mississippi Sheiks. WORLD GONE WRONG is also by them & goes against cultural policy. "strange things are happening like never before." Strange things alright-strange things like courage becoming befuddled & nonfundamental. evil charlatans masquerading in pullover vests & tuxedos talking gobbledyook, monstrous pompous superficial pageantry parading down lonely streets on limited access highways. strange things indeed - irrationalist bimbos & bozos, the stuff of legend, coming in from left field-infamy on the landscape-"pray to the Good Lord" hit the light switch! JACK-A-ROE is another Tom Paley ballad (Tom, one of the New Lost City Ramblers) the young virgin follows her heart (which cant be confined) & in it the secrets of the universe. "there was a wealthy merchant" wealthy & philosophically influential perhaps with an odd penchant for young folk. the song cannot be categorized-is worlds away from reality but "gets inside" reality anyway & strips it of its steel and concrete. inverted symmetry, legally stateless, travelling under a false passport. "before you step on board, sir..." are you any good at what you do? Submerge your personality. DELIA is one sad tale-two or more versions mixed into one. the song has no middle range, comes whipping around the corner, seems to be about counterfeit loyalty. Delia herself, no Queen Gertrude, Elizabeth 1 or even Evita Peron, doesnt ride a Harley Davidson across the desert highway, doesnt need a blood change & would never go on a shopping spree. the guy in the courthouse sounds like a pimp in primary colors. he's not interested in mosques on the temple mount, armageddon or world war III, doesnt put his face in his knees & weep & wears no dunce hat, makes no apology & is doomed to obscurity. does this song have rectitude? you bet. toleration of the unacceptable leads to the last round-up. the singer's not talking from a head of booze. Jerry Garcia showed me TWO SOLDIERS (Hazel & Alice do it pretty similar) a battle song extraordinaire, some dragoon officer's epaulettes laying liquid in the mud, physical plunge into Limitationville, war dominated by finance (lending money for interest being a nauseating & revolting thing) love is not collateral. hittin' them where they aint (in the imperect state that they're in) America when Mother was the the queen of Her heart, before Charlie Chapin, before the Wild One, before the children of the Sun-before the celestial grunge, before the insane world of entertainment exploded in our faces-before all the ancient & honorable artillery had been taken out of the city, learning to go forward by turning back the clock, stopping the mind from thinking in hours, firing a few random shots at the face of time. RAGGED & DIRTY one of the Willy Browns did this - schmaltz & pickled herring, stuffed cabbage, heavy moral vocabulary - sweetness & sentiment, house rocking, superior beauty, not just standing there-the seductive magic of the thumbs up salute, carefully thought out overtones & stepping sideways, the idols of human worship paying thru the nose, lords of the illogical in smoking jackets, sufferers from a weak education, pieces of a jigsaw puzzle-taking stupid chances-being mistreated just so far. LONE PILGRIM is from an old Doc Watson record. what attracts me to the song is how the lunacy of trying to fool the self is set aside at some given point. salvation and the needs of mankind are prominent & hegemony takes a breathing spell. "my soul flew to mansions on high" what's essentially true is virtual reality. technology to wipe out the truth is now available. not everybody can afford it but it's available. when the cost comes down look out! there wont be songs like this anymore. factually there aren't any now. by the way, don't be bewildered by the Never Ending Tour chatter. there was a Never Ending Tour but it ended in '91 with the departure of guitarist G.E. Smith. that one's long gone but there have been many others since then. The Money Never Runs Out Tour (fall of '91) Southern Sympathizer Tour (early '92) Why Do You Look At Me So Strangely Tour (European '92) The One Sad Cry Of Pity Tour (Australia & West Coast American '92) Principles Of Action Tour (Mexico-South American '92) Outburst Of Consciousness Tour ('92) Don't Let Your Deal Go Down Tour ('93) & others too many to mention. each with their own character and design. to know which was which consult the playlists.


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 Post subject: Re: World Gone Wrong
PostPosted: Sat July 14th, 2012, 00:16 GMT 
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No, no I'm glad you did!

I love the tour names :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: World Gone Wrong
PostPosted: Sat July 14th, 2012, 00:37 GMT 
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ive said it already on this thread, but i really love this album. one of my very favourites from Bob.

love this video too of Bob sauntering around Camden.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz542iQchN4


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 Post subject: Re: World Gone Wrong
PostPosted: Sat July 14th, 2012, 01:53 GMT 

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Always been a late classic for me, but just yesterday I was in my car about to go to work when Love Henry came on. I made a cdr with GAIBTY, WGW and the outtakes, but when I started listening to the words of Love Henry, I had to start it over. What a gem...may be my new fave from WGW. Strange how he winds up dead in a well and then she's even suspicious of the bird (or the bird is of her)!!


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 Post subject: Re: World Gone Wrong
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Question:



Dylan decides to conclude his 1071-word rumination about ten otherauthored folksongs with a short tidbit about his very own Never Ending Tour. Why do you suppose he finds this inclusion relevant?


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