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Author:  mjeff [ Wed June 1st, 2011, 22:59 GMT ]
Post subject:  What's the "Holy Grail" for Dylan fans?

Do we want a dvd compilation from 1961 to 2011? Or is it one song that is supposed to be out there and unreleased? What say you.. what is your holy grail?

Author:  matulah [ Wed June 1st, 2011, 23:16 GMT ]
Post subject:  Re: What's the "Holy Grail" for Dylan fans?

Mine is the song "I'm Cold" which he reportedly wrote and performed for some friends around 1977. I think I read it in "Down the Highway" that one of them described it as a very dark and melancholic continuation of the songs on "Blood On The Tracks". It doesn't seem like a recording exists, but if it does, I'd do quite a lot to hear it.

The consensus seem to be that Salt Lake City 1976 is the Holy Grail, the concert where both "Black Diamond Bay" and "Jack of Hearts" were played. Another Holy Grail would be the supersecret rehearsal tapes from 2008 where Dylan effortlessly croons through the Sinatra repertoire in a clear and soaring tenor.

Author:  Mister.Jones [ Wed June 1st, 2011, 23:20 GMT ]
Post subject:  Re: What's the "Holy Grail" for Dylan fans?

It is the cup Bob and the Beatles - John, Paul, George and Bongo - used when they met at the Waldorf in 1965. It is said it possesses miraculous powers.

Author:  Lily Rose [ Thu June 2nd, 2011, 00:18 GMT ]
Post subject:  Re: What's the "Holy Grail" for Dylan fans?

matulah wrote:
Mine is the song "I'm Cold" which he reportedly wrote and performed for some friends around 1977. I think I read it in "Down the Highway" that one of them described it as a very dark and melancholic continuation of the songs on "Blood On The Tracks". It doesn't seem like a recording exists, but if it does, I'd do quite a lot to hear it

The consensus seem to be that Salt Lake City 1976 is the Holy Grail, the concert where both "Black Diamond Bay" and "Jack of Hearts" were played. Another Holy Grail would be the supersecret rehearsal tapes from 2008 where Dylan effortlessly croons through the Sinatra repertoire in a clear and soaring tenor.

I think these songs are out there, but I would wonder if he ever did anything but play them for a few others.... might not have been recorded.

Yeah, this is the one that I want to see.... yes, see..... it is on film...

Holy crap..... I am usually ready to believe he can pull off about anything..... but even I don't quite believe this one is possible..... :?

Author:  Jazznroll [ Thu June 2nd, 2011, 00:23 GMT ]
Post subject:  Re: What's the "Holy Grail" for Dylan fans?

To me i guess it would either the tape that lennen and bob made at kenwood if it exists which i doubt, or
Some sort of 'kissology' but with proper quality discs that arnt dodgy.

Author:  boiledgutsofbirds [ Thu June 2nd, 2011, 00:25 GMT ]
Post subject:  Re: What's the "Holy Grail" for Dylan fans?

The I'm Cold demoes are probably the most unique thing in the Dylan archives unreleased (presuming it exists). I'd also like to hear a good recording of the 1965 electric tour but I fear one doesn't exist.

Author:  Solo Teem [ Thu June 2nd, 2011, 00:49 GMT ]
Post subject:  Re: What's the "Holy Grail" for Dylan fans?

Mister.Jones wrote:
It is the cup Bob and the Beatles - John, Paul, George and Bongo - used when they met at the Waldorf in 1965. It is said it possesses miraculous powers.

Five boys, one cup

Author:  Milkcow [ Thu June 2nd, 2011, 02:38 GMT ]
Post subject:  Re: What's the "Holy Grail" for Dylan fans?

my own holy grail would be saratoga springs 08... audio and video would just be overwhelming... I'd faint

Author:  XZYOE [ Thu June 2nd, 2011, 02:46 GMT ]
Post subject:  Re: What's the "Holy Grail" for Dylan fans?

Mine would be Salt Lake City 76, Carnegie Hall '65, the '68 Southern Illinois University encore with The Band, and the '64 Dave Van Ronk tape where Dylan supposedly played I Want To Hold Your Hand.

Also, I think I read that Bob jammed with the members of the Beatles who attended the Isle of Wight show after the show, so if there was a tape of that (probably not), I would certainly like to hear it.

Author:  Danko420 [ Thu June 2nd, 2011, 03:27 GMT ]
Post subject:  Re: What's the "Holy Grail" for Dylan fans?

I would love to get my hands on any of this material. Salt Lake City 76 is probably the one I'm most excited about hearing.

Author:  Bennyboy [ Thu June 2nd, 2011, 06:19 GMT ]
Post subject:  Re: What's the "Holy Grail" for Dylan fans?

Professor Henry Jones: The quest for the grail is not archeology, it's a race against evil. If it is captured by the Nazis the armies of darkness will march all over the face of the earth. Do you understand me?

Author:  slewan [ Thu June 2nd, 2011, 06:40 GMT ]
Post subject:  Re: What's the "Holy Grail" for Dylan fans?

it used to be:

- to hear Visions of Johanna live in concert
- Blind Willie McTell
- songs from The Basement Tapes (before they were officially released)
- Girl On The Red River Shore (which turned out to be a mild disappointment - give that the song was hailed as the modern Holy Grail, the best song form the TOOM sessions etc)

NOW it is (as pointed out before):
Salt Lake City 1976 - still I wonder if there's really a recording and if it is really that great (or just another mild disappointment)

Author:  tellmemomma1966 [ Thu June 2nd, 2011, 06:49 GMT ]
Post subject:  Re: What's the "Holy Grail" for Dylan fans?

boiledgutsofbirds wrote:
I'd also like to hear a good recording of the 1965 electric tour but I fear one doesn't exist.

it definitely doesn't exist. i'd love to hear a soundboard of Berkley but there is none.


for me the holy grail would be some more chronicles volumes! preferably 10-20 million more

also salt lake city as said by many others

Author:  Johanna Parker [ Thu June 2nd, 2011, 07:26 GMT ]
Post subject:  Re: What's the "Holy Grail" for Dylan fans?

I don't think Red River Shore was a disappointment. It's a very good song, it just didn't fit the mood of TOOM.

A holy grail type thing known to exist would be the complete Bromberg sessions of 1992. Judging by what we have, that's be a great album, though I wouldn't want to be without GAIBTY.

Another thing would be the video of the TOOM sessions as filmed by Lanois' brother.... I think I read that's in the Dylan vaults, too.

Author:  rimbaud [ Thu June 2nd, 2011, 07:47 GMT ]
Post subject:  Re: What's the "Holy Grail" for Dylan fans?

Maybe the Street Legal piano demos. Failing that, the Complete Blonde on Blonde sessions.

Author:  Brian Hamilton-Smith [ Thu June 2nd, 2011, 08:04 GMT ]
Post subject:  Re: What's the "Holy Grail" for Dylan fans?

Dylan's recordings and performances are the pinnacle of American popular music. Apart from a few scraps, it's all out there: the official recordings to buy, the bootlegs to download. The 'Holy Grail' exists, and we have it.

Why do people always seem to want more???

Author:  Bennyboy [ Thu June 2nd, 2011, 08:27 GMT ]
Post subject:  Re: What's the "Holy Grail" for Dylan fans?

Brian Hamilton-Smith wrote:
Dylan's recordings and performances are the pinnacle of American popular music. Apart from a few scraps, it's all out there: the official recordings to buy, the bootlegs to download. The 'Holy Grail' exists, and we have it.

Why do people always seem to want more???


All of us, at times, we might work too hard
To have it too fast and too much
And anyone can fill his life up
With things he can see but he just cannot touch

Author:  blackhat [ Thu June 2nd, 2011, 08:38 GMT ]
Post subject:  Re: What's the "Holy Grail" for Dylan fans?

Bennyboy wrote:
Professor Henry Jones: The quest for the grail is not archeology, it's a race against evil. If it is captured by the Nazis the armies of darkness will march all over the face of the earth. Do you understand me?


First thing I thought of when I saw this thread.

Author:  slewan [ Thu June 2nd, 2011, 08:51 GMT ]
Post subject:  Re: What's the "Holy Grail" for Dylan fans?

Johanna Parker wrote:
I don't think Red River Shore was a disappointment. It's a very good song, it just didn't fit the mood of TOOM.


It's surely is a good song, but my point is/was: in relation to the hype that was created about it the song itself is disappointing (maybe expectations were much too high)

Author:  Nekronaut [ Thu June 2nd, 2011, 09:38 GMT ]
Post subject:  Re: What's the "Holy Grail" for Dylan fans?

My Holy Grail is "Something Is Happening 1966 DVD" and that madhouse thing he did in 62

Author:  Bennyboy [ Thu June 2nd, 2011, 10:04 GMT ]
Post subject:  Re: What's the "Holy Grail" for Dylan fans?

Blu-Rays of the complete Blood On The Tracks and Desire sessions, Hard Rain and Clearwater TV shows, along with expanded version of Renaldo and Clara. Commentary on these will be by Bob himself and all the key players. Audio disk will include sounboards of the best RTR shows, including Salt Lake City.

All this will come in one big mother of a deluxe boxset shaped like the Rolling Thunder hat. And be free.

Author:  boiledgutsofbirds [ Thu June 2nd, 2011, 11:54 GMT ]
Post subject:  Re: What's the "Holy Grail" for Dylan fans?

Bennyboy wrote:
Blu-Rays of the complete Blood On The Tracks and Desire sessions, Hard Rain and Clearwater TV shows, along with expanded version of Renaldo and Clara. Commentary on these will be by Bob himself and all the key players. Audio disk will include sounboards of the best RTR shows, including Salt Lake City.

All this will come in one big mother of a deluxe boxset shaped like the Rolling Thunder hat. And be free.

This is the most brilliant post ever.

Author:  Troubadour64 [ Thu June 2nd, 2011, 13:27 GMT ]
Post subject:  Re: What's the "Holy Grail" for Dylan fans?

^but of course would require a legitimate about of spelunking to acquire it.

i'm still laughing from Solo's comment.

"Let it go, Indy, let it go"

Author:  Johanna Parker [ Thu June 2nd, 2011, 13:31 GMT ]
Post subject:  Re: What's the "Holy Grail" for Dylan fans?

slewan wrote:
Johanna Parker wrote:
I don't think Red River Shore was a disappointment. It's a very good song, it just didn't fit the mood of TOOM.


It's surely is a good song, but my point is/was: in relation to the hype that was created about it the song itself is disappointing (maybe expectations were much too high)


It is quite certain that expectations ran high concerning this. However it isn't clear to me what kind of a revelatory kind of song people did expect. Exactly what would that or any other so-called holy grail have to be to satisfy expectations?

Author:  Dr.TLT [ Thu June 2nd, 2011, 13:34 GMT ]
Post subject:  Re: What's the "Holy Grail" for Dylan fans?

boiledgutsofbirds wrote:
Bennyboy wrote:
Blu-Rays of the complete Blood On The Tracks and Desire sessions, Hard Rain and Clearwater TV shows, along with expanded version of Renaldo and Clara. Commentary on these will be by Bob himself and all the key players. Audio disk will include sounboards of the best RTR shows, including Salt Lake City.

All this will come in one big mother of a deluxe boxset shaped like the Rolling Thunder hat. And be free.

This is the most brilliant post ever.

^This^

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