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PostPosted: Sat March 5th, 2011, 06:25 GMT 

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Shadows are falling and I’ve been here all day
It’s too hot to sleep, time is running away
Feel like my soul has turned into steel
I’ve still got the scars that the sun didn’t heal
There’s not even room enough to be anywhere
It’s not dark yet, but it’s getting there

Well, my sense of humanity has gone down the drain
Behind every beautiful thing there’s been some kind of pain
She wrote me a letter and she wrote it so kind
She put down in writing what was in her mind
I just don’t see why I should even care
It’s not dark yet, but it’s getting there

Well, I’ve been to London and I’ve been to gay Paree
I’ve followed the river and I got to the sea
I’ve been down on the bottom of a world full of lies
I ain’t looking for nothing in anyone’s eyes
Sometimes my burden seems more than I can bear
It’s not dark yet, but it’s getting there

I was born here and I’ll die here against my will
I know it looks like I’m moving, but I’m standing still
Every nerve in my body is so vacant and numb
I can’t even remember what it was I came here to get away from
Don’t even hear a murmur of a prayer
It’s not dark yet, but it’s getting there


The song that defined the album for many. It's possibly one of Bob's greatest compositions and certainly among the finest performances on any album. I love the song myself and ironically I have always gotten great hope from the song. I think Bob has always been one to look forward to the night, a time of quiet contemplation and this song hastens that. It's a song that is about lifting the burdens of life. Perhaps that is death but it can also be a love. It can be a lot of things really and it has been for me throughout the years. It's ultimately a blues song, a song about getting through to something better.
I could listen to this song for hours and there are so many great performances over the years. I think the song really became something special for me in the summer of 99 when he did that tour with Paul Simon. Those shows are among my favorites from the NET and this song is a big reason.
My all time fave though has got to be Jones Beach...

Wantagh NY
July 30 1999
http://www.sendspace.com/file/p913ku

What are your thoughts on this one? Anyone got a good live version? Or maybe they're own cover??
Thanks my peeps!


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PostPosted: Sat March 5th, 2011, 21:57 GMT 

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One of his best songs ever. Period.


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PostPosted: Sat March 5th, 2011, 23:11 GMT 
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mjeff wrote:
One of his best songs ever. Period.
Absolutely. I love it.

And the youtube video is so cool.


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PostPosted: Sat March 5th, 2011, 23:43 GMT 

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One of my favorite Dylan quirks is the way he'll extend a line far beyond its rightful time, and it flourishes where it should flounder
- the jumpy yet indolent - He finishes his drink, he gets up from the table, he says, Ok boys, I'll see you tomorrow from Handy Dandy
- the imperious acceleration of Othello told Desdemona, I’m cold, cover me with a blanket. By the way, what happened to that poison wine? She says, I gave it to you, you drank it
- and here, in Not Dark Yet, I can't even remember what it was I came here to get away from, at once agitated and swooning.


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PostPosted: Sat March 5th, 2011, 23:46 GMT 
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As of today my favourite performances from the Time out of mind sessions are Dreamin' of you and the second Can't wait on TTS.
More direct and un-laboured sound than what prevails on the album.

That said, there's a bunch of tunes from the album you might want to hear in a different setting, Not dark yet is clearly one.
Lanois kept talking about a stripped-down version. Until that one appears I'm fine with the memory from a Stockholm concert I attended in the late nineties.

Funny, I don't rate Dylan highly as a live performer - too erratic and uneven - but I must have seen a dozen or so shows and still my experience is that he somehow nails a couple of tunes most nights. The ones he might feel most about at the moment.


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PostPosted: Sun March 6th, 2011, 04:15 GMT 
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This one is often strong live. Probably those summer 1999 versions are the ones to check out first. I'm also fond of the one from the Anaheim late show in March of 2000. And the ragged vocals from the one in Motril, Spain in 2004.


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PostPosted: Sun March 6th, 2011, 04:44 GMT 

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favorite version http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05L0YTrODxk

and as it was mentioned half the beauty comes to dylans timing and dragging of phrases. makes it pop. he really pushes behind each word for its point.


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PostPosted: Sun March 6th, 2011, 05:40 GMT 
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On live recordings, the audience's enthusiasm can come off pretty weird.
"It's not dark yet, but it's gettin' there..."
"WOO!"
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PostPosted: Sun March 6th, 2011, 05:42 GMT 
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I honestly never cared for the song. I don't mind Bob's sad songs because usually there's some element to them other than depression, but this one's pretty one-sided.


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PostPosted: Sun March 6th, 2011, 18:32 GMT 

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Every line is quoteable and magic. it rolls so smoothly as if he didnt have to try too hard to fit it all together.


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PostPosted: Sun March 6th, 2011, 20:21 GMT 

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I'll make this my first post --

This track was my way into Dylan. TOOM came out my first semester at college. And something about the album stuck -- I had always thought of Dylan as a words guy, but that album made music and atmosphere just as important.

"Not Dark Yet" sums it all up -- the music is ravishing. The words are important, yes, but they blend with and support the tune, which supports them back. And Dylan sings it with such exquisitely observed pain and humor.

I guess Clapton has covered it recently -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZiKxt15mus . Nice in its own way, but it shows how important Dylan's delivery is.


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PostPosted: Tue March 8th, 2011, 04:17 GMT 

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The MEZ always got this track but for some reason it did take quite some time for it to become a staple in my "commonly played tracks". It really is a great song! MEZ


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PostPosted: Tue March 8th, 2011, 06:41 GMT 
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There's a real beauty from Tokyo 3/14/01. The boot I have it on is called Budokan 2001 Revisited. A little different than the '99 versions but just as awesome.


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PostPosted: Wed March 9th, 2011, 23:38 GMT 
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Going back through some shows, I can't recall a bad performance.

Hearing him sing the line:

I can't even remember what is was I came here to get away from

is a thing of beauty... I always wonder if he still has it in him to pull it off and the audience always seems to be hanging from a thread on that too.

Nobody does it better...


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PostPosted: Thu March 10th, 2011, 04:13 GMT 
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Great song.

Anyone care to enlighten me why this is supposed to contain Masonic references and also be strongly Jewish as I've seen hinted at in published comments in mags / books? I have never understood that.


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PostPosted: Thu March 10th, 2011, 11:39 GMT 
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I don't know anything about the Masonic inferences but when Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ soundtrack came out, Not Dark Yet was the "title track". I can kind of see it but it is a stretch...

(Maybe because I'm not a big Mel Gibson fan?)


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PostPosted: Thu March 10th, 2011, 13:13 GMT 

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If I was compiling a single cd of Dylan`s best it would definitely be on it.


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PostPosted: Thu March 10th, 2011, 19:04 GMT 
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Among Dylan's best? My credential's for deciding such are questionable... but Not Dark Yet would be on my list. It strikes me on so many levels and for me the lyrics and the tune/arrangement are a marriage made in heaven. I just like it... a lot.


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PostPosted: Thu March 10th, 2011, 21:02 GMT 

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Untrodden Path wrote:
I don't know anything about the Masonic inferences but when Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ soundtrack came out, Not Dark Yet was the "title track". I can kind of see it but it is a stretch...

(Maybe because I'm not a big Mel Gibson fan?)


i can't see it either but mel did ask dylan to write a song for the movie, and he wrote this for it...but being dylan he was late. so they just threw it on.

(im a gibson fan, and i cant see it either)


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PostPosted: Thu March 10th, 2011, 21:22 GMT 

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His greatest late period achievement and his finest song in the last 25 years or more.


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PostPosted: Thu March 10th, 2011, 21:44 GMT 
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Great, great truly chilling song. If I could just have this, Mississippi, and say High Water on my resume I'd be a happy camper.


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PostPosted: Fri March 11th, 2011, 18:52 GMT 

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When I first heard the song I misheard 'I've still got the scars that the sun didn't heal' as 'I've still got the scars but they're starting to heal'. So I read the line as a kind of welcoming of death as a relief from the pains of life. A positive message, not a negative one.

That said, for us older people the line, 'It's not dark yet, but it's getting there' has a chilling resonance.


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PostPosted: Fri March 11th, 2011, 19:03 GMT 

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There's this from besotted in a previous thread :

Baroness Afdera Franchetti (1931— )(photo) is an Italian Baroness, descendant of an old Jewish Venice family that intermarried with the Rothschild family and eventually converted to Catholicism. She is most famous as the fourth wife of American actor Henry Fonda.

She was once at a lunch with Marlon Brando and Bob Dylan. Brando was baiting Dylan. Come on, you've got all the answers, what's the meaning of life? Dylan sat back and thought for a moment: Love your mother and be good to your children. The answer angered Brando. "If that's the answer, how come everything you write is so abstract, so dark?" Again Dylan thought before he answered. "It's not dark. It's not dark yet. But it's getting there." The extraordinary thing about this reply was the sentence became a refrain in a Dylan song twenty years later and, secondly, that Afdera remembered it.


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PostPosted: Sat December 15th, 2012, 06:38 GMT 

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Now my new favorite version....

Simply put, a stunning version:

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PostPosted: Sat December 15th, 2012, 12:33 GMT 
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easily the best song on TOOM and one my favourites overall.


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