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PostPosted: Sat January 13th, 2018, 15:27 GMT 
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Wiggle Wiggle: Howlin’ Wolf – Evil orig. studio vers. (slowed down), Jerry Lee Lewis – Sexy/Cool Cool Ways
Under The Red Sky
Unbelievable: Billy Lee Riley – Rock With Me Baby
Born In Time
TV Talking Song
10,000 Men
2 x 2
God Knows
Handy Dandy
Cat’s In Well: Howlin’ Wolf – Shake For Me, Smiley Lewis – Bumpity Bump

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PostPosted: Sat January 13th, 2018, 21:13 GMT 
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Handy Dandy: Like A Rolling Stone :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Sat January 13th, 2018, 21:39 GMT 
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I never heard the LARS connection until someone mentioned it years later.

The whole album is a bit strange. Slash, Sir Elton John, George Harrison and more high profile artists are noted as supposedly being on the album and it was marketed strangely too. Mine had a promotional sticker on it that said Featuring Handy Dandy, like it was a classic or a big hit. And wasn't the whole project dedicated to Gabby Goo?

Bob fact : To date he's only played Handy Dandy once:

https://youtu.be/Czl2DdmJIzE


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PostPosted: Sat January 13th, 2018, 21:51 GMT 
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dylanswife wrote:
Bob fact : To date he's only played Handy Dandy once:

https://youtu.be/Czl2DdmJIzE


Which obviously points out what a wise decision it was to drop it forever.
Maybe it sounded better live, in-person?


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PostPosted: Sat January 13th, 2018, 22:00 GMT 
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Still Go Barefoot wrote:
dylanswife wrote:
Bob fact : To date he's only played Handy Dandy once:

https://youtu.be/Czl2DdmJIzE


Which obviously points out what a wise decision it was to drop it forever.
Maybe it sounded better live?


If I was at the show perhaps I could say it sounded better but I don't think that's possible.

The lyrics are cringe worthy all around.. Imo.

I always misheard this line as "they hit *him*" :

He got an all girl orchestra and when he says
"Strike up the band", they hit it

It's too bad they didn't hit him, I kinda like hearing it that way.


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PostPosted: Sat January 13th, 2018, 23:37 GMT 
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Under the Red Sky is a fine album and several of the songs have been fantastic live. Handy Dandy should have become a standard but, Bob being Bob, he's only played it once. That, my friends, is a definition of a tragedy.


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PostPosted: Sun January 14th, 2018, 01:14 GMT 
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My Echo, My Shadow And Me wrote:
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God Knows - um, the Bible?


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PostPosted: Sun January 14th, 2018, 16:52 GMT 

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Cats in the Well - "Lucille" by Little Richard.


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PostPosted: Sun January 14th, 2018, 21:41 GMT 
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This album is a piece of crap all the way through due to weak material, a bad mix of guest musicians, poor production, and miserable to mediocre singing that too often is like a Dylan imitator, more disappointing because the preceding album was great and his live shows and period bootlegs were quite strong (after the drunk shows of 90-91 were over). His vocals are very weak and badly recorded throughout. Dan Lanois must have shaken his head on listening to a wasted opportunity.

There are a few decent songs--Unbelievable the best of the lot but much better when live. Same with God Knows--weak in the studio, convincing live.

The title song is one of his worst. 2x2 is not much better. 10,000 Men is strike three in the nursery rhyme imitation thing.

Wiggle Wiggle did not incite the dance craze it might have. Big fail. Could be the worst first cut on any Dylan album. A reasonable adult would stop the record after this song and move on.

TV Talking Song is a fair Bob Dylan imitation. Handy Dandy is self-nostalgia at its worst.

Born in Time is a great song, but this version and performance are terrible.

Cat's in the Well-strike four, with penalty for the pointless blues changes

I still own the lp but am never tempted to play it again. I lose more respect for him every time I hear his bad records, so I avoid those.

I'm not interested in the "sources" except to the degree it teaches how not to write bad songs. I see no connection at all to Howling Wolf except maybe some of the Willie Dixon novelty blues he recorded--300 Lbs of Joy etc. Bob has taken basic blues changes from many records. It doesn't take much skill.

3 good tunes done better elsewhere, plus mediocre, lazy and ill-conceived tunes not worth a second listen except to study how a great artist can fail by avoiding his gifts and settling for his mannerisms.


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PostPosted: Sun January 14th, 2018, 21:51 GMT 

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harmonica albert wrote:
This album is a piece of crap all the way through due to weak material, a bad mix of guest musicians, poor production, and miserable to mediocre singing that too often is like a Dylan imitator, more disappointing because the preceding album was great and his live shows and period bootlegs were quite strong (after the drunk shows of 90-91 were over). His vocals are very weak and badly recorded throughout. Dan Lanois must have shaken his head on listening to a wasted opportunity.

There are a few decent songs--Unbelievable the best of the lot but much better when live. Same with God Knows--weak in the studio, convincing live.

The title song is one of his worst. 2x2 is not much better. 10,000 Men is strike three in the nursery rhyme imitation thing.

Wiggle Wiggle did not incite the dance craze it might have. Big fail. Could be the worst first cut on any Dylan album. A reasonable adult would stop the record after this song and move on.

TV Talking Song is a fair Bob Dylan imitation. Handy Dandy is self-nostalgia at its worst.

Born in Time is a great song, but this version and performance are terrible.

Cat's in the Well-strike four, with penalty for the pointless blues changes

I still own the lp but am never tempted to play it again. I lose more respect for him every time I hear his bad records, so I avoid those.

I'm not interested in the "sources" except to the degree it teaches how not to write bad songs. I see no connection at all to Howling Wolf except maybe some of the Willie Dixon novelty blues he recorded--300 Lbs of Joy etc. Bob has taken basic blues changes from many records. It doesn't take much skill.

3 good tunes done better elsewhere, plus mediocre, lazy and ill-conceived tunes not worth a second listen except to study how a great artist can fail by avoiding his gifts and settling for his mannerisms.
You didn't like it, then?


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PostPosted: Mon January 15th, 2018, 13:36 GMT 
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Oppositely, I do like this album with all its imperfections.
I bought the CD lately (one or two years ago) in order to have the complete Dylan studio albums on my shelves. Surprinsingly (due to its reputation) it immediately seemed quite pleasant to my ears. Now that's the one I listen when I want a "light" (or superficial or "pop") Dylan record, and it happens quite often. I must also admit that it is when I'm doing something else while listening, such as working or browsing. But it's always a good company to me.


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