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PostPosted: Sat February 20th, 2010, 21:04 GMT 

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Townes van Zandt
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PostPosted: Sun February 21st, 2010, 07:04 GMT 

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Shogo36 wrote:
I came in this thread just looking but as I read some answers suddenly a name popped into my head...

Bill Callahan he's been known as Smog, but his album Sometimes I Wish We Were An Eagle is perfect contemporary folk mixed with alternative country. Its like Cohen, Dylan and Townes and some other "indie" stuff thrown it. Now not as good as any of those legends. But this album really is quite phenomenal, specifically the opening track "Jim Cain" which you can hear here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv7nJXQoqFo



Bill Callahan is the greatest.

It's the music to his song "Held" that you hear in one of Bob's Cadillac commercials.
Not much mention of that was made....I hope Bill got a good retirement plan out of the royalties!


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PostPosted: Sun February 21st, 2010, 09:33 GMT 

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Townes van Zandt is one (there is a great biography out on him by Robert Earl Hardy) I think of when i think of Bob Dylan or Leonard Cohen.
Another one is Guy Clark.


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PostPosted: Sun February 21st, 2010, 09:45 GMT 
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Into My Arms

I don't believe in an interventionist God
But I know, darling, that you do
But if I did I would kneel down and ask Him
Not to intervene when it came to you
Not to touch a hair on your head
To leave you as you are
And if He felt He had to direct you
Then direct you into my arms

Into my arms, O Lord
Into my arms, O Lord
Into my arms, O Lord
Into my arms

And I don't believe in the existence of angels
But looking at you I wonder if that's true
But if I did I would summon them together
And ask them to watch over you
To each burn a candle for you
To make bright and clear your path
And to walk, like Christ, in grace and love
And guide you into my arms

Into my arms, O Lord
Into my arms, O Lord
Into my arms, O Lord
Into my arms

And I believe in Love
And I know that you do too
And I believe in some kind of path
That we can walk down, me and you
So keep your candlew burning
And make her journey bright and pure
That she will keep returning
Always and evermore

You must be joking mate.


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PostPosted: Sun February 21st, 2010, 09:54 GMT 
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Kman223 wrote:
I'd recommend Josh Ritter for anyone interested in the new generation of singer-songwriters. He is very very talented. Girl In The War would be a nice song to start on, or Thin Blue Line.
Thin Blue Flame, yeah. Definitely a stab at standing up to It's Alright, Ma (I'm Only Bleeding)


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PostPosted: Sun February 21st, 2010, 22:00 GMT 

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Paul Simon for sure.
Maybe Warren Zevon as well.
Bruce isn't quite there, but he fits lyrics to music better than anyone.


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PostPosted: Sun February 21st, 2010, 22:04 GMT 

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Neil Young, Arthur Lee (Love),Keith Reid (Procol Harum)


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PostPosted: Sun February 21st, 2010, 22:11 GMT 
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beerzilla wrote:
Townes van Zandt is one (there is a great biography out on him by Robert Earl Hardy) I think of when i think of Bob Dylan or Leonard Cohen.
Another one is Guy Clark.

Hey, a lurker has posted.... EXCELLENT!!!
I would say welcome, but you have been in for a while already...... :D


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PostPosted: Sun February 21st, 2010, 22:17 GMT 
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Ten Easy Pieces by Jimmy Webb


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PostPosted: Sun February 21st, 2010, 22:21 GMT 

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Paul Simon: Very different style but "Duncan" is a prime example of his lyrical genius

Also Conor Oberst's Im Wide Awake, Its Morning is an Extraordinary album lyrically (and it has backing vocals from Emmylou Harris) Sooo Emo....Sooo good


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PostPosted: Sun February 21st, 2010, 22:31 GMT 

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Seeing as Beerzilla has started the ball rolling, the reason I found Bob Dylan in the first place was through Woody Guthrie.

I'm sure you are aware of his work but just in case you aint...


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PostPosted: Sun February 21st, 2010, 23:11 GMT 
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This is one heck of a thread.... all of the following have 10 or less post...and have joined in..... Yee-Ha..... and all have good stuff to say....
Hello one and all..... :D :D :wink:

Kman223 wrote:
I'd recommend Josh Ritter for anyone interested in the new generation of singer-songwriters. He is very very talented. Girl In The War would be a nice song to start on, or Thin Blue Line.

so tired wrote:
Absolutely, Neil Young!

Herb Brahney wrote:
Richard Thompson for sure :)
Lou Reed

Mantastic wrote:
I love Richard Thompson so much! Procol Harum is another favorite.

aliaswhatever wrote:
Leonard, Bob, Van and...Nick Jonas:)

Jacob, Paul Simon and Mike Scott!

Mr Ripley wrote:
Townes van Zandt
Jeff Buckley

beerzilla wrote:
Townes van Zandt is one (there is a great biography out on him by Robert Earl Hardy) I think of when i think of Bob Dylan or Leonard Cohen.
Another one is Guy Clark.

btown wrote:
Paul Simon: Very different style but "Duncan" is a prime example of his lyrical genius

Also Conor Oberst's Im Wide Awake, Its Morning is an Extraordinary album lyrically (and it has backing vocals from Emmylou Harris) Sooo Emo....Sooo good

Charles Henry II wrote:
Seeing as Beerzilla has started the ball rolling, the reason I found Bob Dylan in the first place was through Woody Guthrie.

I'm sure you are aware of his work but just in case you aint...


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PostPosted: Mon February 22nd, 2010, 14:22 GMT 

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Mark Kozelek (Red House Painters,Sun Kil Moon)

Very emotional and melancholistic lyrics, actually desperate lyrics

Smokey by Mark Kozelek

I'm broken down
You caved my karma in
I'm staying up
Waiting for you like a fool

You made me forget
About all the dreams I kept
I keep your glass here
By the bed we slept

I can't erase your smokey eyes
Your smothered face
Gripping on my waist
Leaving a ghost
Upon the Oregon Coast

And on the floors
Of a crashes porch

Who can pretend
That there's a beginning without an end?
It ain't contrived
All this magic in our lives
Comes down like a storm
Then drizzles then dies

Your soul is free
But you're the one I need
And you made your deal
But you're still my ideal

And so I wait
And so I choose this fate
And store your shape
In my electric bed

Who can pretend
That there's a beginning without an end?
It ain't contrived
All the magic in our lives
Comes down like a storm
Then drizzles then dies

This particular song is especially impressive in it's acoustic form. It's just one of many highlghts. I'd put him as my nr 2 fave artist after Bob Dylan


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PostPosted: Mon February 22nd, 2010, 14:25 GMT 

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Also Todd Snider. He is pretty much still a protest singer

Stuck on the Corner (Prelude to a Heart Attack)
From Peace Queer

They named that God damn kiss ass handleman
Vice President of human resources or something
He stood up and made a speech
about how we would all have to work even harder now
I thought “harder now? Harder at what?”
I would give up anything to get up and walk out of here but

I’m stuck on the corner of sanity and madness
I’m looking them over, I can’t see a difference
We’re making money out of paper
Making paper out of trees
We’re making so much money we can hardly breathe

You ought to hear the shit that I get from my daughter
She says that can’t stand the sight of the car I bought her
I ruined her life forever. She don’t ride a rag top
Her and her mother spend my money pretty much non stop
They’re trying to break me for the sake of the neighborhood
They want everybody up and down the street to think we’re doing good

We're stuck on the corner of sanity and madness
I’m looking them over, I can’t see a difference
We’re making money out of paper
Making paper out of trees
We’re making so much money we can hardly breathe

I didn’t even want to study economics
My parents made me because they said it would be practical
I can’t make my kid do a god damn thing I tell him to
That kid’s an unrepentant radical
He is as unimpressed by these plaques in my cubicle
as I am secretly impressed with his ability
to look at everything so completely irresponsibly

I’m stuck on the corner of sanity and madness
I’m looking them over, I can’t see a difference
We’re making money out of paper
Making paper out of trees
We’re making so much money we can hardly breathe

You know now I have to call that little pecker Mr. Handleman
Drove home from work as mad I had ever been
and then I nearly jerked that kid out of a drive-through window
He said “Will that be everything?”
I said “Hey, what would you know?
You’re looking at a man about to buy his kid a rag top
What are you driving, a bicycle you little punk?”

I’m stuck on the corner of sanity and madness.
I’m looking them over, I can’t see a difference.
We’re making money out of paper.
Making paper out of trees.
We’re making so much money we can hardly breathe.

We’re making so much money we can hardly breathe
We’re making so much money we can hardly breathe


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PostPosted: Mon February 22nd, 2010, 14:28 GMT 

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And finally one song in particular by Josh Ritter. Song called "Kathleen". The following paragraph is my fave opening to any song ever. Just reading this gives me goosebumps!

"all the other girls here are stars—you are the Northern Lights
they try to shine in through your curtains—you’re too close and too bright
they try and they try but everything that they do
is the ghost of a trace of a pale imitation of you "

I also agree on (early) Conor Oberst. "It's cool we can still be friends" is one fine example of suicidal but brilliant lyrics

I definately agree on Van Morrison's Astral Weeks. It's a huge trip and a 46 minutes very well spend


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PostPosted: Mon February 22nd, 2010, 17:12 GMT 

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About new, young songwriters: I think Fionn Regan is one of the most talented songwriters of the last few years. His first album (The End of History, 2007) was great. His second album (Shadow of an Empire, 2010) shows a progression in his songwriting and sees him 'plugging in', just like Dylan did with BIABH, alienating quite a few of his original fans as well (from what I could see when I saw him live a few months ago).


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PostPosted: Mon February 22nd, 2010, 20:01 GMT 

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Fionn Regan going electric. That's a shame.
Put a penny in the slot was great!


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PostPosted: Mon February 22nd, 2010, 21:40 GMT 

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How about Beck. He is an evolution of the music Bob helped create. He has done everything from folk to hip hop to country and rock. He has gone through almost as many changes as dylan but in a quarter of the time.To fully understand him you must listen to his entire catalog which is actually quite extensive ( also much like dylan and cohen). And how sweet is the line "We Drop Lobotomy Beats" from the Song "Hollywood Freaks" Take a listen it is different yes! but is in any less a work of art or poetry than Dylan or Cohen? I think not

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYAQ4R7O89w

and then on the opposite spectrum a masterpiece

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6zAT15vaFk


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PostPosted: Mon February 22nd, 2010, 21:50 GMT 
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btown wrote:
How about Beck. He is an evolution of the music Bob helped create. He has done everything from folk to hip hop to country and rock. He has gone through almost as many changes as dylan but in a quarter of the time.To fully understand him you must listen to his entire catalog which is actually quite extensive ( also much like dylan and cohen). And how sweet is the line "We Drop Lobotomy Beats" from the Song "Hollywood Freaks" Take a listen it is different yes! but is in any less a work of art or poetry than Dylan or Cohen? I think not

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYAQ4R7O89w


Great points, I love Beck. He is absolutely an extention of Bob-- totally fearless and uninhibited in his creativity. Odelay is a masterpiece, as is Sea Change.


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PostPosted: Mon February 22nd, 2010, 22:21 GMT 
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not that he is anything like as prolific but I adore Alex Chiltons own original songs (and his covers too, but....) I hereby commend him for his song The Dalai LLama (but you really need the groove too)

Up in Tibet high in the Himalayas
There lives a cat called the Dalai Llama
In a palace called the Patala
A million rooms in a million colours
He had a far out decorator

Dalai...Dalai Llama

Each room is different and filled with relics
That will disorient you like psychedelics
I hear he never swats a Mosquito
Thats cos he's a follower of Buddha

Dalai... Dalai Llama

Now ever wednesday he leads a prayer meeting
commanding the devotion of his followers
and it kinda goes like this

uh uh ooo ooo oo oo o oo oooo ooo oo
uh uh ooo ooo oo oo o oo oooo ooo oo

Dalai.. Dalai Llama


Apparently this was originally going to be a song about Graham Greene. The man is a genius I kid you not.

I would also put up any of the people who wrote such songs as "get a job" "da doo ron ron ron" "he's a rebel" "bad motorcycle" - given a chance to be heard this music could last as long as Dylans and I suspect he'd agree... I mean "I met him on a monday and his name was Bill" - what a classic line!!!!


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PostPosted: Mon February 22nd, 2010, 22:24 GMT 
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Al Jolson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yEx0plcYtc


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PostPosted: Mon February 22nd, 2010, 22:30 GMT 

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Conor Oberst of Bright Eyes is the best song writer to come along in 30 years, and he very prolific. Try the following albums:

I'm Wide Awake It's Morning
Fevers and Mirrors
Lifted
Cassadga


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PostPosted: Mon February 22nd, 2010, 22:36 GMT 

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No one can touch Bob Dylan's lyrics in a million years but I enjoy Patty Griffin's songs. Here's Let him fly-- great lyrics!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBv9btSaTu8&feature=related
Bright Eyes I'm Wide Awake is amazing too.


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PostPosted: Mon February 22nd, 2010, 22:52 GMT 
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PostPosted: Tue February 23rd, 2010, 01:19 GMT 

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I think Tom Waits and Conor Oberst are amazing writers, razzle-dazzle & deep truth, but their voices kind of prevent me loving their stuff rather than just admiring it - and yet, Cohen and Cave are hardly conventionally great singers but I love their stuff. One thing Conor Oberst does, and it's a Dylanesque trick that he does exceptionally : is make a half-rhyme sound like a full rhyme. It frustrates me a bit that there's these great songs by those two that are gonna be a little closed off to me.


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