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PostPosted: Sun February 1st, 2015, 08:35 GMT 
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Back in 65 or 66' there was a Bob Dylan story in the NYT, Village Voice or somewhere where Dylan was asked about some song and he replied "it's at least as good as tracks of my tears."

I assumed he was being sarcastic because the article was full of hipsters and put downs, typical for the times when Dylan met the media.

The story had a kind of moveable late night feel to it as Dylan and his entourage went from place to place, sort of a Visions of Johanna thing.

Does anyone remember the story as well?

It's not like today when all the media cover Bob Dylan. He was a rare citing in newspapers then.


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PostPosted: Sun February 1st, 2015, 16:44 GMT 

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The story you're referring to was entitled "A Night With Bob Dylan" and it appeared in the New York Herald Tribune on December 12, 1965.

http://content.yudu.com/Library/A1plqd/ ... resources/

^ If you click there, you can find the complete piece starting on page 247.


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PostPosted: Sun February 1st, 2015, 19:39 GMT 
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sdpate wrote:
I assumed he was being sarcastic...
I would not take that remark as being sarcastic at all, given Dylan's positive comments towards Smokey Robinson.

I've written at length about Dylan and Smokey Robinson here: http://swarmuth.blogspot.com/2012/08/bo ... ricas.html.

My essay is referenced, and placed into a larger cultural context in Andrew Grant Jackson's new book 1965: The Most Revolutionary Year in Music. http://www.amazon.com/1965-Most-Revolut ... 1250059623


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PostPosted: Sun February 1st, 2015, 19:50 GMT 

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sdpate wrote:
Back in 65 or 66' there was a Bob Dylan story in the NYT, Village Voice or somewhere where Dylan was asked about some song and he replied "it's at least as good as tracks of my tears."

I assumed he was being sarcastic because the article was full of hipsters and put downs, typical for the times when Dylan met the media.

The story had a kind of moveable late night feel to it as Dylan and his entourage went from place to place, sort of a Visions of Johanna thing.

Does anyone remember the story as well?

It's not like today when all the media cover Bob Dylan. He was a rare citing in newspapers then.


Rare citing in newspapers then? where do you come up with this stuff? for the record, the man has averaged over an interview a month since 1963 (better to believe what you want that what is fact….especially around here)

link below is just a partial list of interviews print and otherwise fro 1965: (and of the press conferences - reporters were there asking questions - like an interview, dudes….writing articles and interviewing him…..which would appear in…..get this….NEWSPAPERS and MAGAZINES….and lo and behold via WIRE SERVICES…..someitmes i just think ER members miss the mark….myth, the mark is more like it

for more links go to olaf….go to google…go to bobdylan.com…go to a library…

it is hard to research when you never search in the first place, i guess


http://www.interferenza.com/bcs/inter60s.htm


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PostPosted: Mon February 2nd, 2015, 00:18 GMT 
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oldfan wrote:

Rare citing in newspapers then? where do you come up with this stuff? for the record, the man has averaged over an interview a month since 1963 (better to believe what you want that what is fact….especially around here)



I remember reading that factoid...it must be 20 years ago now (maybe in Behind The Shades?). I wonder if it's still true, I don't see how it could be given the rate of Dylan interviews these days.


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PostPosted: Mon February 2nd, 2015, 00:22 GMT 
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An interview a month? I don't think so. They are scarce as hen's teeth. :wink:


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PostPosted: Mon February 2nd, 2015, 02:13 GMT 
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Thanks hjh I knew I had read it before.

One hates to ask a question without risking somebody calling them. Back in 1965 there wasn't an Internet or a site like Expecting Rain collecting stories. We hunted down Dylan stories from Playboy, New Yorker, NYT anywhere. They were shared but we didn't have anything like today.

I just happened to be visiting a girl friend in Easton, PA when the article came out but the paper belonged to her teacher so it could not be taken back with me to Montreal. It was much different then, we listened intently to the music and that was 95% of the Dylan experience.

Scottw I read your story interesting. That cannard is like the one they tell about Hunter S. Thompson and the music business.

Thanks.


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PostPosted: Mon February 2nd, 2015, 02:31 GMT 
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That's a great link with hundreds of articles. Bookmarked that one. Thanks again.


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PostPosted: Mon February 2nd, 2015, 02:38 GMT 
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My reference to rare stories is compared to the public relations blitz that occurs whenever Bob Dylan twitches these days. Most of the stories are derivative of one first report that every other paper and blog repeats. How many people will write about "Shadows in the Night" without hearing the whole album, or even listening to it I depth 4 or 5 times. Very few. There is a big rush to print a story any story to get high in the Google search results.


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PostPosted: Mon February 2nd, 2015, 02:58 GMT 
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sdpate wrote:
Most of the stories are derivative of one first report that every other paper and blog repeats. How many people will write about "Shadows in the Night" without hearing the whole album, or even listening to it in depth 4 or 5 times. Very few. There is a big rush to print a story any story to get high in the Google search results.

Indeed, & this is a phenomenon I parodied in my review of Tempest two months before the album came out. It went viral & I received a tonne of (very entertaining) abuse. https://alanbumstead.wordpress.com/2012 ... pest-2012/


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Tracks of My Tears was a masterpiece, and Bob knew it.


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PostPosted: Mon February 23rd, 2015, 17:36 GMT 
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Tracks of My Tears was a masterpiece, and Bob knew it.

This. Nail. Head. Hit.


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PostPosted: Mon February 23rd, 2015, 17:43 GMT 
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The song was "Since I Lost My Baby" by The Temptations. Tune.


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PostPosted: Mon February 23rd, 2015, 18:16 GMT 
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^ Indeed!

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Temptations - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duusvtW3wvc

Smokey & The Miracles - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d03Oo8jHoTA

At this point, I have to disagree with young Bob: the Temptations record is GOOD, but it ain't as good as the transcendent Smokey record.


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PostPosted: Mon February 23rd, 2015, 19:49 GMT 
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^ Indeed!

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Temptations - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duusvtW3wvc

Smokey & The Miracles - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d03Oo8jHoTA

At this point, I have to disagree with young Bob: the Temptations record is GOOD, but it ain't as good as the transcendent Smokey record.


Since I Lost my Baby could be Tracks of My Tears worthy. I'm also a fan of "Oh No That's Not My Baby" by Maxine Brown. Same year, huh?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7iuI9Dssig


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PostPosted: Mon February 23rd, 2015, 19:58 GMT 
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supermabel1 wrote:
^ Indeed!

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Temptations - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duusvtW3wvc

Smokey & The Miracles - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d03Oo8jHoTA

At this point, I have to disagree with young Bob: the Temptations record is GOOD, but it ain't as good as the transcendent Smokey record.


Since I Lost my Baby could be Tracks of My Tears worthy. I'm also a fan of "Oh No That's Not My Baby" by Maxine Brown. Same year, huh?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7iuI9Dssig

If you like Oh No Not My Baby, take a listen to her 1961 hit All In My Mind- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHqDKGKIHSk

Since I Lost My Baby is GOOD, and so is Oh No Not My Baby (and when I say GOOD, I mean really GOOD!) - but Tracks and All In My Mind, for me, are transcendent: supreme examples of their performers' art. Just sayin'. What were we talkin' about? 8)


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PostPosted: Mon February 23rd, 2015, 20:23 GMT 

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^ All great soul records. here's another from '65 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQePR52VtHY


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Smokey had three transcendent masterpieces in my opinion: Tracks of my Tears, You Really Got a Hold on Me, and Tears of a Clown. They stand among the best pop songs ever written


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PostPosted: Tue February 24th, 2015, 00:27 GMT 
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toilandblood546 wrote:
Smokey had three transcendent masterpieces in my opinion: Tracks of my Tears, You Really Got a Hold on Me, and Tears of a Clown. They stand among the best pop songs ever written

True.


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PostPosted: Tue February 24th, 2015, 00:29 GMT 
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^ All great soul records. here's another from '65 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQePR52VtHY

A great record!


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The story you're referring to was entitled "A Night With Bob Dylan" and it appeared in the New York Herald Tribune on December 12, 1965.

http://content.yudu.com/Library/A1plqd/ ... resources/

^ If you click there, you can find the complete piece starting on page 247.


Thanks again especially to hjh for that treasure trove of articles about Bob.

Finally got the text converted and posted again One Night With Bob Dylan In New York 1965 http://njnnetwork.com/2015/02/one-night-with-bob-dylan-in-new-york/


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Changing pace a bit, but let's talk about Otis Redding and this song...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCB9eHCbAug

It's a shame he never did Just Like a Woman.


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PostPosted: Tue February 24th, 2015, 18:32 GMT 
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Changing pace a bit, but let's talk about Otis Redding and this song...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCB9eHCbAug

It's a shame he never did Just Like a Woman.

Nice one, Mr steve! This has the sound of an uncompleted or demo session - and it's none the poorer for that**. I remember the song (written by Dan Penn with Rick Hall and Oscar Franks) in the version by Maurice & Mac - here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Doa-n1mwCp4 which was popular with UK soul fans at the time.

** read the wiki article about the Otis version which confirms it was a demo (for Wilson Pickett!) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Left_the_Water_Running

Here's what the Wicked Pickett made of it - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r27CsQPPaAM


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goodnitesteve wrote:
Changing pace a bit, but let's talk about Otis Redding and this song...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCB9eHCbAug

It's a shame he never did Just Like a Woman.

Nice one, Mr steve! This has the sound of an uncompleted or demo session - and it's none the poorer for that**. I remember the song (written by Dan Penn with Rick Hall and Oscar Franks) in the version by Maurice & Mac - here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Doa-n1mwCp4 which was popular with UK soul fans at the time.

** read the wiki article about the Otis version which confirms it was a demo (for Wilson Pickett!) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Left_the_Water_Running

Here's what the Wicked Pickett made of it - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r27CsQPPaAM


Wilson Pickett is something else too. I love this thread.


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Somebody's gotta do a Smokey-Bob mashup: Blood on the Tracks of My Tears


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