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Which album do you prefer -- New Morning or Planet Waves?
I like New Morning a LOT more 16%  16%  [ 13 ]
I like New Morning a little more 18%  18%  [ 15 ]
I like them equally 13%  13%  [ 11 ]
I like Planet Waves a little more 23%  23%  [ 19 ]
I like Planet Waves a LOT more 30%  30%  [ 25 ]
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PostPosted: Wed June 22nd, 2016, 13:47 GMT 
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Two of his most underrated albums (IMHO), both from his "domestic" phase


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PostPosted: Wed June 22nd, 2016, 13:50 GMT 
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Planet Waves wins this one for me. Not even close. New Morning isn't an album I have even considered listening to for years.


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PostPosted: Wed June 22nd, 2016, 14:01 GMT 

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Planet Waves because ennui just isn't that interesting even when Bob does it.


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PostPosted: Wed June 22nd, 2016, 14:02 GMT 

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I'm voting for "like them equally." I would say New Morning is my slightly more personally favored/enjoyed of the two, but that Planet Waves is probably the stronger album overall. I have always found that put together with Blood On The Tracks they form a sort of trilogy and flow well from one into the next in terms of subject matter and sound. I wouldn't want to be without any of them.


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PostPosted: Wed June 22nd, 2016, 14:12 GMT 

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Put me on team Planet Waves as well.

New Morning is nice every once in a while, preferably in the summer in the a.m. for obvious reasons, but Planet Waves you can play almost any time and its strong all the way through.


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PostPosted: Wed June 22nd, 2016, 14:46 GMT 
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New Morning has one of my favorite voices and some cool tunes, and great piano on it...plus that cover pic of young D with Victoria Spivey is priceless.

Planet Waves is good, too, but Dirge and Wedding Song both overreach a bit, imo, something One More Weekend has never been accused of.


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PostPosted: Wed June 22nd, 2016, 15:01 GMT 

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I like them equally.

Both are good Albums with good Songs and both are underrated, I guess.

But I don´t see them as a trilogy with BOTT.

BOTT is a hell of an Album, cult pur with Bob in Bestform.


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PostPosted: Wed June 22nd, 2016, 15:12 GMT 

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They're both uneven sets of songs, but New Morning's best are better. Then again Planet Waves has better performances thanks to the Band, so it's a draw.

It's not my favorite period of Dylan's but there's plenty of gems scattered throughout the "domestic" years (or the "amnesia" years or the "lost" years, etc.), from the 1969 Nashville Skyline sessions to the 1973 Planet Waves sessions. I could see a very useful compilation scooping up the best of it to form a truly great 14 or 16 track LP.


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PostPosted: Wed June 22nd, 2016, 15:15 GMT 

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Planet Waves with Going Going gone a particular favourite.


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PostPosted: Wed June 22nd, 2016, 15:19 GMT 

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planet waves is bland and feels rushed. not a lot of emotion as there wasn't in the "come back" tour. a precursor


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PostPosted: Wed June 22nd, 2016, 15:21 GMT 

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Not his best but some good stuff all the same.


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PostPosted: Wed June 22nd, 2016, 15:35 GMT 
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NE-1 wrote:
planet waves is bland and feels rushed. not a lot of emotion as there wasn't in the "come back" tour. a precursor


I don't agree with 'not a lot of emotion' at all. Surely Planet Waves was the start of the the Blood on The Tracks emotionally-bare period? It was the precursor of a masterpiece.


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PostPosted: Wed June 22nd, 2016, 15:50 GMT 
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It's not my favorite period of Dylan's but there's plenty of gems scattered throughout the "domestic" years (or the "amnesia" years or the "lost" years, etc.), from the 1969 Nashville Skyline sessions to the 1973 Planet Waves sessions. I could see a very useful compilation scooping up the best of it to form a truly great 14 or 16 track LP.

I have a 1969-1973 playlist on my iPhone that I've been listening to a ton recently. It's grown to 27 tracks. The songs flow together nicely and there's not a weak one in the batch:
1) I Threw It All Away
2) Lay Lady Lay
3) Tonight I'll Be Staying Here with You
4) Little Sadie
5) Pretty Saro
6) Railroad Bill
7) Spanish is the Loving Tongue
8) Thirsty Boots
9) This Evening So Soon
10) Went To See the Gypsy
11) Copper Kettle
12) Days of '49
13) When I Paint My Masterpiece
14) Watching the River Flow
15) Wallflower
16) You Ain't Going Nowhere
17) Crash on the Levee
18) I Shall Be Released
19) If Not for You
20) The Man in Me
21) New Morning
22) Sign on the Window
23) Forever Young
24) On a Night Like This
25) Something There is About You
26) Nobody 'Cept You
27) Knockin' on Heaven's Door

btw most of the time, I chose the Another Self Portrait version of a song that also appeared on Self Portrait or New Morning.


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PostPosted: Wed June 22nd, 2016, 16:52 GMT 
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Both Curates egg's= 'Good in Parts'.


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PostPosted: Wed June 22nd, 2016, 17:17 GMT 
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Probably my custom version of "New Morning":

1. "If Not For You" - ASP Version(with Violin)
2. "Day Of The Locusts"
3. "Time Passes Slowly" - ASP Alternate #1 (with Harrison)
4. "Went To See The Gypsey" - ASP Version (Demo)
5. "If Dogs Run Free" - ASP Version
6. "New Morning"
7. "Sign On The Window"
8. "The Man In Me"
9. "Three Angels"
10. "Father Of Night"


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PostPosted: Wed June 22nd, 2016, 17:24 GMT 
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I like Planet Waves quite a bit more.


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PostPosted: Wed June 22nd, 2016, 17:36 GMT 
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I hardly listen to Planet Waves. There's some good stuff on there, but I play New Morning a lot more.


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PostPosted: Wed June 22nd, 2016, 17:37 GMT 
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To me it would have to be Planet Waves every time. New Morning was, at least in part, written from a 'character's point of view, to accompany a play, and as such stands apart from work written from the point of view of the character we call Bob Dylan. Planet Waves has more in common with its more bitter counterpart Blood On The Tracks, as a portrayal (at least in some respects) of marriage, and has far greater depth and emotional honesty - at least it rings true to my ears... I find New Morning to be one of those records that attempts to put the 'art' into 'artificial', but fails - at the time it was heralded as a 'return to form' after Self Portrait, but in hindsight I find the latter to be a more honest expression of human emotion.

I sometimes give New Morning 'another chance' and bung it on the record player, but I very rarely get more than half way through.


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PostPosted: Wed June 22nd, 2016, 17:47 GMT 
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New Morning was, at least in part, written from a 'character's point of view, to accompany a play


After all we found out to be exaggerated and/or fabricated in Chronicles, I don't know if I'd take this all the way to the bank.


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PostPosted: Wed June 22nd, 2016, 18:09 GMT 
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goodnitesteve wrote:
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New Morning was, at least in part, written from a 'character's point of view, to accompany a play


After all we found out to be exaggerated and/or fabricated in Chronicles, I don't know if I'd take this all the way to the bank.


I thought this was pretty well established? An off-Broadway play? Angus McLeish if memory serves?


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PostPosted: Wed June 22nd, 2016, 18:12 GMT 
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I think only Dylan has confirmed this and he's a pretty unreliable narrator. Archibald MacLeish has been dead since 1982, can't ask him.
Here's an article on the whole thing.
https://richardgilbert.wordpress.com/20 ... -macleish/


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PostPosted: Wed June 22nd, 2016, 18:30 GMT 
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I feel like New Morning has a pretty terrible tracklist in comparison to the rest of the material at the time. Just going off of the two albums, I'll have to say Planet Waves is better. But, if you make your own New Morning tracklist with stuff from Another Self Portrait, it gets to be a lot better than Planet Waves.


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PostPosted: Wed June 22nd, 2016, 18:39 GMT 
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goodnitesteve wrote:
I think only Dylan has confirmed this and he's a pretty unreliable narrator. Archibald MacLeish has been dead since 1982, can't ask him.
Here's an article on the whole thing.
https://richardgilbert.wordpress.com/20 ... -macleish/


Al Kooper also confirms it, and claims he was there.

Among other places, it is in the Promo video for ASP.


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PostPosted: Wed June 22nd, 2016, 18:52 GMT 

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Oh and there's some truly wonderful phrasing on Something There Is About You.


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PostPosted: Wed June 22nd, 2016, 18:56 GMT 
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I believe Al Kooper.


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