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PostPosted: Sun October 19th, 2014, 18:09 GMT 

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hi ER, love dylan's version of this song. ive heard tons of renditions and i like the way dylan does it best.
can anyone help me out with playing this one?
during the interlude around the 1:05 mark, after the E chord riff, he plays a riff while holding an F chord. on the b string, he plays a C, then a D, then a C. can anyone tab out the picking pattern for this part please? i cant figure out how to play it properly. i know parts of this song involve picking the same string with different fingers, is that what is happening here?
its an awesome sounding guitar part and i would be very grateful to anyone who can help me out. thanks!

as a side note, does anyone know what bob says near the end of the song? "its bad on the talons" or "its bad on the talents"?


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PostPosted: Mon October 20th, 2014, 18:47 GMT 

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Maybe this helps.
It’s from: http://dylanchords.info/


E7 F
: . . . : . . . : . . . : . . .
|-------0---------|-----------------|-----------------|-----------------|
|---------------3-|-------0---------|---1-------------|---1-----------0-|
|---1-------1-----|---1-------1---0-|h2-------------0-|h2---------2-----|
|-----2-------2---|-----2-------2---|-----3-------3---|-----3-------3---|
|-----------------|-----------------|-0---------------|-0---------------|
|-0-------0-------|-0-------0-------|---------1-------|---------1-------|

C F G C
: . . . : . . . : . . . : . . .
|-------0---------|-----------------|-----------------|-----------------|
|---1-------------|---1-----------0-|h1-------------1-|---------------1-|
|-----------0---0-|h2---------0-----|-----------0-----|-----------0-----|
|-----2-------2---|-----3-------0---|-----2-------2---|-----2-------2---|
|-3---------------|-0---------------|-3---------------|-3---------------|
|---------3-------|---------3-------|---------3-------|---------3-------|

Good luck.


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PostPosted: Mon October 20th, 2014, 20:49 GMT 

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ive actually been using eyolfs tab (because eyolf is the man) but thank you for grabbing that for me. thats the right part of the song, but the riff im trying to figure out is a variant on what you posted. i appreciate the effort tho.
i think my question is a bit too specific for this forum, even tho many guitar players frequent this site. if anyone has any advice on the general picking style i would appreciate it. it sounds like dylan is either muting a string or picking in a style im unfamiliar with. or possibly the recording didnt pick up some of the quieter notes. whatever it is, im having trouble getting the same sound.


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PostPosted: Mon October 20th, 2014, 22:03 GMT 
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lets move on to cocaine and the rolling thunder tour....


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PostPosted: Tue October 21st, 2014, 03:03 GMT 
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slimtimslide wrote:
lets move on to cocaine and the rolling thunder tour....
OK-Is it a 'musician's drug' the way weed was back in the day when Louis Armstrong called it 'a friend' while rolling across the continent with his industrial sized air freshener?
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PostPosted: Tue October 21st, 2014, 03:12 GMT 

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finding out louis armstrong was a stoner made this thread worth starting :shock: :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Tue October 21st, 2014, 03:31 GMT 
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camilla's house wrote:
finding out louis armstrong was a stoner made this thread worth starting :shock: :mrgreen:

Haha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obrDSmiDyGk


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PostPosted: Tue October 21st, 2014, 19:32 GMT 

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I'l have another look, or rather good listen to it. I like to play the song!
Hope I'll find out something.


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PostPosted: Wed October 22nd, 2014, 00:13 GMT 

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ok, awesome, thanks.
ive been playing it with the standard pattern like below (the notes i used dont matter, i just mean what my right hand is picking)
|-------0---------|
|---------------3-|
|---0-------0-----|
|-----2-------2---|
|-3---------------|
|--------3--------|

is this how you play it? or do you play it without picking the 3rd string (like how it is tabbed on dylanchords)?


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PostPosted: Wed October 22nd, 2014, 11:48 GMT 

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I use the same pattern, including the g-string, just like you do it.
I listened to Cocaine, but didn't hear the 'riff' you mentioned.
My mistake, because I listened to the Minnesota (1961) version.
Only now I noted that you are talking 'bout the Gaslight version.
I'll have a listen to that one.

What I do remember is that Dylan picks the g string also, because, as an open string, it gives a nice 'clash' with the g sharp
when he plays the E chord in the 5th position (fingered like C).
To be continued.
I like discussing guitar-playing subtleties.


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PostPosted: Wed October 22nd, 2014, 20:41 GMT 

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im sorry, i agree that he definitely plays the g string at times.
i meant to specify a section where i cant hear the g string. i cant hear the g string until he gets to the F chord in the intro, where he hammers on from g to a.
it sounds very choppy when i try to play it like this. my hand wants to make an extra motion every time. i think there might be a technique that gets around this problem. either that or i suck at guitar (very likely).


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PostPosted: Fri October 24th, 2014, 18:11 GMT 

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It's too sweet and nice to my taste, but this might offer some clues:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHR1xk8Rp5k


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PostPosted: Sat October 25th, 2014, 00:31 GMT 

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i appreciate the link but as you know he doesnt play it like dylan does
for the first phrase of the f chord, do you pluck the open A string at the same time as the g to a hammer on?


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