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New Art Exhibition: October 2016
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Author:  Johanna Parker [ Sun November 6th, 2016, 08:21 GMT ]
Post subject:  Re: New Art Exhibition: October 2016

scottw wrote:
Several of the paintings are based on classic film noir. There are at least two that use images from Touch of Evil. Others use images from The Crimson Kimono, The Set-Up and Lolita.

https://twitter.com/scottwarmuth1/statu ... 4863811584

https://twitter.com/scottwarmuth1/statu ... 2483528705


Bob / Vanity Fair:
On Curry Road in Arizona, I used an old movie frame, and I did that on a couple of different paintings, too.

Good finds, Scott, thanks for posting.

Author:  scottw [ Sun November 6th, 2016, 12:36 GMT ]
Post subject:  Re: New Art Exhibition: October 2016

onemorecup wrote:
I googled Bandera, Texas which is the title of the print I have recently bought. The place apparently is known as the 'Cowboy Capital of the World'. I found locations which resembled Dylan's picture but the 'Woody's BBQ' joint depicted does not exist, it's the name of a restaurant chain all of which are located further east! It's a fun picture though, a night scene with a dark blue sky and a nice bright street lamp in the middle.

It does exist. It is in Inglewood, California. The phone number is included in the painting.

http://www.woodysbarbquela.com/locations.html

http://www.soulofamerica.com/us-cities/ ... inglewood/

Author:  My Echo, My Shadow And Me [ Sun November 6th, 2016, 14:19 GMT ]
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My Echo, My Shadow And Me wrote:
Photo from back of "The Beaten Path" catalogue.


The raven-haired lady could be actress, burlesque dancer and choreographer Tracy Phillips, who appeared in the "The Night We Called It A Day" video (wearing a blonde wig).

Author:  to the grave [ Mon November 7th, 2016, 01:30 GMT ]
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Thanks to scottw for tracking down some of the photos that Bob talked about in his Foreword. It will be interesting to see if anyone confirms the Endless Highway/James Dean hypothesis mentioned earlier.

And I echo the thanks to Echo and others for discussing the potential techniques used to move from the photos to the paintings. If I am going to have a couple of the graphics on my walls, it's great to know a bit about how they were created!

Finally, I'm not sure if it has been discussed on any of these threads, but the fire at one of the London Castle galleries sure was upsetting. It sounds like the gallery just had one complete portfolio of these new works. One article mentioned that the graphics will not be replaced, so that means that there will only be 294 of each work in this release....grave

Author:  scottw [ Wed November 9th, 2016, 14:01 GMT ]
Post subject:  Re: New Art Exhibition: October 2016

scottw wrote:
Several of the paintings are based on classic film noir. There are at least two that use images from Touch of Evil. Others use images from The Crimson Kimono, The Set-Up and Lolita.

https://twitter.com/scottwarmuth1/statu ... 4863811584

https://twitter.com/scottwarmuth1/statu ... 2483528705

Additional film sources for some of The Beaten Path paintings:
Border Incident
https://twitter.com/scottwarmuth1/statu ... 3931215872

Rain Man
https://twitter.com/scottwarmuth1/statu ... 4177355779

What's Eating Gilbert Grape
https://twitter.com/scottwarmuth1/statu ... 9972065280

"The works were done from real life, literature, films, songs, poems and poetry and a certain outlook all scrambled together in one form or another." - Bob Dylan

Author:  homerthes [ Wed November 9th, 2016, 15:45 GMT ]
Post subject:  Re: New Art Exhibition: October 2016

scottw wrote:
scottw wrote:
Several of the paintings are based on classic film noir. There are at least two that use images from Touch of Evil. Others use images from The Crimson Kimono, The Set-Up and Lolita.

https://twitter.com/scottwarmuth1/statu ... 4863811584

https://twitter.com/scottwarmuth1/statu ... 2483528705

Additional film sources for some of The Beaten Path paintings:
Border Incident
https://twitter.com/scottwarmuth1/statu ... 3931215872

Rain Man
https://twitter.com/scottwarmuth1/statu ... 4177355779

What's Eating Gilbert Grape
https://twitter.com/scottwarmuth1/statu ... 9972065280

"The works were done from real life, literature, films, songs, poems and poetry and a certain outlook all scrambled together in one form or another." - Bob Dylan


Thanks Scott, that answers something I raised as a concern with you, elsewhere.

Author:  20yearsofschooling [ Wed November 9th, 2016, 20:28 GMT ]
Post subject:  Re: New Art Exhibition: October 2016

I like the paintings and I have no problem with whatever techniques or sources he wishes to use but the idea that this is being sold as Dylan's personal observations of life on the road in America when that seems far from the case does make me a little uncomfortable. Or is the fakery all part of a bigger statement (he surely knows he's going to be caught out by now)?

Author:  scottw [ Thu November 10th, 2016, 03:16 GMT ]
Post subject:  Re: New Art Exhibition: October 2016

The catalog for the show begins with this from Dylan: "The works were done from real life, literature, films, songs, poems and poetry and a certain outlook all scrambled together in one form or another."

Author:  Johanna Parker [ Thu November 10th, 2016, 04:40 GMT ]
Post subject:  Re: New Art Exhibition: October 2016

I would like for him to point out the painting that actually was done from real life.


While I love finally seeing Dylan's pencil sketches again, it is clear that these are much less organic than the original Drawn Blank, which was all real life work. With the new Beaten Path sketches, there is too much focus on perfectly straight lines, and getting all the writing, commercial signs, Asian characters and similar detail to resemble the source image as closely as possible. It is an excercise in copying, and I agree with 20yearsofschooling in feeling uncomfortable about this.

Unrelated to the above, it also appears to me that in The Beaten Path, Dylan has rolled two separate and distinctly different series of works into one.

Author:  scottw [ Thu November 10th, 2016, 12:01 GMT ]
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Bonnie and Clyde
https://twitter.com/scottwarmuth1/statu ... 3894202368

Author:  McG [ Thu November 10th, 2016, 15:35 GMT ]
Post subject:  Re: New Art Exhibition: October 2016

Dylan's paintings have zero impact on me apart from generating anger at his ripoffery. Sorry, but they're just represenations of real things and display no imagination whatsoever, beyond his sleight of hand in getting people to part with huge amounts of money.

He probably didn't even do them himself. It wouldn't surprise me if he has a team of illegal mexican midgets knocking them out round the clock, along with the odd iron gate.

Author:  to the grave [ Thu November 10th, 2016, 18:35 GMT ]
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20yearsofschooling wrote:
I like the paintings and I have no problem with whatever techniques or sources he wishes to use but the idea that this is being sold as Dylan's personal observations of life on the road in America when that seems far from the case does make me a little uncomfortable. Or is the fakery all part of a bigger statement (he surely knows he's going to be caught out by now)?


To offer just one theory, we are all very aware of the connection that Dylan feels for the blues/folk method of borrowing material and using it in a new (perhaps not too new) way. I guess I could see these Beaten Path works as a similar statement about tradition and appropriation. He watches these films on his bus perhaps (although it seems so strange to think of him watching Rain Man) and reflects on certain images that stand out to him for what they might say about America, particularly its past. Or he sees pictures of the Manhattan Bridge rising in the distance between two buildings, and it makes him think about a different side of the nation.

I'm not suggesting that everyone must see the process in these terms, but it is a guess at how Dylan himself might think about what it means to have personal observations about film images, photos, literary descriptions, etc., while on the road in America.....grave

Author:  McG [ Thu November 10th, 2016, 22:35 GMT ]
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It's boring and unimaginative. Not difficult to figure out that the old guy has been running on fumes.

Author:  bobschool [ Fri November 11th, 2016, 00:53 GMT ]
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McG is doing a fine job of the loyal opposition! :lol: carry forward!

Author:  Johanna Parker [ Fri November 11th, 2016, 04:33 GMT ]
Post subject:  Re: New Art Exhibition: October 2016

This new collection at least in part seems to cater to what sold well in the past, like the Train Tracks image. Painting more train tracks and throwing in a few roads appears like a very marketable choice.

Author:  to the grave [ Fri November 11th, 2016, 21:03 GMT ]
Post subject:  Re: New Art Exhibition: October 2016

Johanna Parker wrote:
This new collection at least in part seems to cater to what sold well in the past, like the Train Tracks image. Painting more train tracks and throwing in a few roads appears like a very marketable choice.


I agree that a few titles seem remarkably marketable; but so many of the others seem to be the exact opposite. That makes me wonder if marketability is really much on Bob's mind when deciding on images....grave

Author:  scottw [ Sat November 12th, 2016, 10:21 GMT ]
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Winchester '73
https://twitter.com/scottwarmuth1/statu ... 4131644416

Paris, Texas
https://twitter.com/scottwarmuth1/statu ... 3935349760

What's Eating Gilbert Grape (this is an additional image from this film that was used for a The Beaten Path painting. There are also two paintings based on shots from Touch of Evil that have been identified thus far).
https://twitter.com/scottwarmuth1/statu ... 3029682176

This makes ten films used in The Beaten Path that have been identified:
Border Incident
What's Eating Gilbert Grape
Rain Man
Lolita
Touch of Evil
The Crimson Kimono
The Set-Up
Bonnie and Clyde
Winchester '73
Paris, Texas

Author:  McG [ Sat November 12th, 2016, 13:03 GMT ]
Post subject:  Re: New Art Exhibition: October 2016

He's taking the f*cking piss.

Author:  bobschool [ Sat November 12th, 2016, 20:37 GMT ]
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EXCELLENT WORK SCOTT! WE OWE YOU A HUGE DEBT OF GRATITUDE!

you are Philip Marlowe and I am sure Bob loves being in his own noir with you.


Image

Author:  kuddukan [ Sat November 12th, 2016, 22:05 GMT ]
Post subject:  Re: New Art Exhibition: October 2016

It's kind of interesting that as much of America as Bob "sees" that he needs to find inspiration in film scenes.

Author:  Johanna Parker [ Sat November 12th, 2016, 23:40 GMT ]
Post subject:  Re: New Art Exhibition: October 2016

McG wrote:
He's taking the f*cking piss.


Of course he is, and has been in all his post-Drawn Blank Series paintings.

Author:  bobschool [ Sun November 13th, 2016, 00:06 GMT ]
Post subject:  Re: New Art Exhibition: October 2016

But I'm just a soul whose intentions are good
Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood

Author:  McG [ Sun November 13th, 2016, 09:00 GMT ]
Post subject:  Re: New Art Exhibition: October 2016

bobschool wrote:
But I'm just a soul whose intentions are good
Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood


The price tags seem to be very easy to understand.

Author:  Johanna Parker [ Sun November 13th, 2016, 13:46 GMT ]
Post subject:  Re: New Art Exhibition: October 2016

On an unrelated matter... Scott, I'm wondering if you have looked at the new 1966 Dylan box in detail. I'm wondering if all the articles used in the artwork are genuine and unaltered, considering it would be quite Dylanesque to change the odd thing around.

Author:  scottw [ Sun November 13th, 2016, 15:02 GMT ]
Post subject:  Re: New Art Exhibition: October 2016

One of the new paintings is called Voter Registration Store, Poughkeepsie. The building is actually in Williamsburg, Brooklyn and is the subject of a short film.

https://twitter.com/scottwarmuth1/statu ... 7957250048


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