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Author:  michael curtius [ Tue November 19th, 2013, 07:47 GMT ]
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rolling_thunder wrote:
I loved the book, I particularly like the part where he mentions walking around whenever he couldn't get things going while playing with the Dead and walking into a jazz club (I believe it was) and being inspired to mix up and rework his songs in a way that would work for him now...essentially this sounds like the moment the NET as an idea began to take shape so it's pretty cool.

The story about him meeting Jack Dempsey and Dempsey saying he needs to put on some weight thinking he was wanting to be a Heavyweight :lol: . Bob would be fat as hell if he was a Heavyweight, he's just a small guy, always has been.

Also the way he described the city of New Orleans in the book was very captivating. Made me want to visit there (even though I still haven't)

I'm sure there's a lot about the book I've forgotten, but those are some of the things I remember.

I´m thinkin´it this way too. "...he mentions walking around whenever he couldn't get things going while playing with the Dead and walking into a jazz club..." That has been a scene, NET started .

Author:  oldmanemu [ Wed November 20th, 2013, 01:17 GMT ]
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must read it again some day soon.

Author:  Johanna Parker [ Wed January 29th, 2014, 00:03 GMT ]
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http://www.pinterest.com/scottwarmuth/the-story-of-a-lie-bob-dylan-and-robert-louis-stev/

Author:  michael curtius [ Sat August 2nd, 2014, 09:38 GMT ]
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Read that part recently ... appreciate the way of writing.

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Author:  michael curtius [ Sat August 9th, 2014, 10:30 GMT ]
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Isnt that´s great? "You could be dead for a long time" (You´ll not be interrupted by doing that here ) ... don´t matter, if someone else said that before.

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Author:  michael curtius [ Sun August 10th, 2014, 18:56 GMT ]
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New Orleans - a special place ...
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Author:  Queen Anne Lace [ Wed August 13th, 2014, 03:52 GMT ]
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michael curtius wrote:
New Orleans - a special place ...
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Thank you for reminding me how much I love this chapter of Chronicles, michael.
...especially this:

"There are a lot of places I like, but I like New Orleans better."

.....me, too, Bob. 8)

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Author:  michael curtius [ Wed August 13th, 2014, 07:19 GMT ]
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Thanks Queen, appreciating the post, thanks for the pic too! :)
I love the way, Bob writes about New Orleans, the pictures he uses.

Author:  shooting_star_night [ Sat August 23rd, 2014, 21:27 GMT ]
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Have begun reading this one again :) Still Amazing :D

Author:  Johanna Parker [ Sat January 31st, 2015, 15:42 GMT ]
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Who's "Lucy" in the listing on p.36 of Chronicles?

Author:  charlesdarwin [ Sat January 31st, 2015, 16:09 GMT ]
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^ Lucille Ball

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucille_Ball

Author:  Johanna Parker [ Sat January 31st, 2015, 19:56 GMT ]
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Oh alright, thank you.

Author:  Johanna Parker [ Sun February 1st, 2015, 11:11 GMT ]
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Any hints on "Westinghouse" and "The Nelsons" on the same page?

Author:  scottw [ Sun February 1st, 2015, 14:17 GMT ]
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The Nelsons are a family that starred in the popular TV show The Adventures of Ozzie and Harriet. The show was used as a vehicle to help launch the music career of Ricky Nelson.

The Westinghouse Electric Corporation was known at that time for sponsoring many television programs, such as the long-running Westinghouse Studio One.

All of the elements in that paragraph are instantly recognizable to Americans of a certain age range, and they function as a kind of nostalgic shorthand. For instance, he ends the paragraph with a one word sentence: "Levittown." That one word conjures images of American suburbia in the 1950's, such as this: http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/200 ... n.CA01.jpg

Both sets of my grandparents bought homes in the first Levittown; Levittown, New York (thanks to the G.I. Bill, which afforded them low interest, zero down payment home loans). My parents grew up in Levittown. My grandmother still lives in her Levit house.

Author:  Johanna Parker [ Sun February 1st, 2015, 14:35 GMT ]
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Thank you.
The trick is to make it accessible to non-Americans of an uncertain age.

Author:  raging_glory [ Sun February 1st, 2015, 14:42 GMT ]
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Johanna Parker wrote:
Thank you.
The trick is to make it accessible to non-Americans of an uncertain age.


I don't understand what you are saying. Why would anyone write about their life if it didn't include details about that life, including the culture and era in which they grew up?

Author:  scottw [ Sun February 1st, 2015, 14:44 GMT ]
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Johanna Parker wrote:
Thank you.
You're welcome. The trick is to make it accessible to non-Americans of an uncertain age.

You might want to check out Alessandro Carrara's annotations in his Italian translation. He covers a lot of this stuff.

Author:  Johanna Parker [ Sun February 1st, 2015, 14:53 GMT ]
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raging_glory wrote:
Johanna Parker wrote:
Thank you.
The trick is to make it accessible to non-Americans of an uncertain age.


I don't understand what you are saying. Why would anyone write about their life if it didn't include details about that life, including the culture and era in which they grew up?


That's not what I mean. What I'm saying (and why I'm asking) is that readers must make it accessible to themselves, esp across cultural and generation gaps. I happen to be German and 40+ years younger than Bob... I'm just interested in finding out about the things in his work that arent immediately clear to me.

Author:  raging_glory [ Sun February 1st, 2015, 15:02 GMT ]
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Johanna Parker wrote:

That's not what I mean. What I'm saying (and why I'm asking) is that readers must make it accessible to themselves, esp across cultural and generation gaps. I happen to be German and 40+ years younger than Bob... I'm just interested in finding out about the things in his work that arent immediately clear to me.


Thanks for clarifying!

Author:  scottw [ Sun February 1st, 2015, 15:35 GMT ]
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Johanna Parker wrote:
What I'm saying (and why I'm asking) is that readers must make it accessible to themselves, esp across cultural and generation gaps. I happen to be German and 40+ years younger than Bob... I'm just interested in finding out about the things in his work that arent immediately clear to me.


charlesdarwin wrote:

I suggest that it is not enough to know that "Lucy" is Lucille Ball. You need to know that it is cultural shorthand for her TV show I Love Lucy. The popularity of this show cannot be understated. The show ran in syndication for decades and was ubiquitous and unavoidable. It was always on television. For decades. The characters and the episodes are deeply ingrained in the psyche of certain generations of Americans. These generations can speak in Lucy shorthand.

An example comes up in David Kinney's The Dylanologists. Kinney writes this about my high school years: "The guys he ran with called themselves the Friends of the Friendless."

It made me laugh to learn that a high school friend of mine had brought that up when Kinney interviewed him, because it sounds so bleak if one does not understand the context. The name of the group is meant to be comic, in that it is a reference to an episode of I Love Lucy: http://youtu.be/TzDN74rMTzE

Author:  Johanna Parker [ Wed February 4th, 2015, 13:49 GMT ]
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p.40, Grunwald?

Author:  scottw [ Wed February 4th, 2015, 13:52 GMT ]
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Johanna Parker wrote:
p.40, Grunwald?

From the context I believe that he's talking about Matthias Grünewald, the German Renaissance painter.

Author:  Johanna Parker [ Wed February 4th, 2015, 14:02 GMT ]
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scottw wrote:
Johanna Parker wrote:
p.40, Grunwald?

From the context I believe that he's talking about Matthias Grünewald, the German Renaissance painter.


He sucks at spelling.... thanks.

Author:  oldmanemu [ Wed February 4th, 2015, 22:40 GMT ]
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That is actually bad editing.

Author:  Johanna Parker [ Wed February 4th, 2015, 23:22 GMT ]
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oldmanemu wrote:
That is actually bad editing.


Probably, but I suppose it more of a don't doubt Dylan attitude.

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