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PostPosted: Fri December 9th, 2016, 03:23 GMT 
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Nobel Ceremony


Bob Dylan (I'm Not There)

Nobel Laureate Literature Prize
10 December 2016, Saturday


Guest artists include:
Patti Smith sings Hard Rain

Bob Dylan will not appear at the Ceremony.
Instead, Bob wrote a speech to be read, maybe by Patti.

(2017 Tour Dates began to trickle out today...we needed that.)



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Countdown to Saturday: Nobel Prize Stirs Northland Dylan Fans

STOCKHOLM, SWEDEN - One thing Dylan's Nobel Prize selection has done is provide alternative subject matter to the recent election pyrotechnics. First there was ink spilled regarding the selection itself, which included stories about purportedly "worthier" candidates.

Then there were all the stories (nearly 2 weeks' worth) questioning why Mr. Dylan did not respond immediately. This was followed by analysis of his cryptic response once he did reply, stating he "would be there... if able."

This past week the word on the street is that Patti Smith will be the one to receive the award on his behalf and will read his acceptance speech. She will also sing "Hard Rain's Gonna Fall," one of the great songs of all time.
(I did not say, "one of the great Dylan songs of all time." This is, I believe, one of the greatest songs ever written. Period. No hyperbole, which I tend to be fond of on occasion.)

In the Northland, the big event that regional Dylan fans are looking forward to is a December 10 gathering of the Hibbing Dylan Project at the Androy Hotel in Hibbing, where young Robert Zimmerman famously came of age, so to speak. What originally began as a discussion about how to raise money to build a statue to honor the hometown boy who made good has evolved. When Craig Hattam and the organizers learned from Dylan's management team that Bob wouldn't want a statue it was quickly nixed. He'd rather have any money raised go to helping people in some way.

A meeting was then announced for his Saturday, the day the prize will be awarded, to discuss what the local community might be able to do. But even this is evolving. Governor Mark Dayton is using the occasion to declare December 10 "Bob Dylan Day" in Minnesota. I cannot attest to the depth of Governor Dayton's fandom, but I will say that his handlers are wise to encourage his participation here this weekend.

Today I saw a pair of stories on Flipboard pertaining to Dyan's influence. The first, an article from Rolling Stone in which Stephen King defended the Nobel Prize committee's selection. Kudos to King, who said rather pointedly,"People complaining about his Nobel either don't understand or it's just a plain old case of sour grapes." The second, was an article in which former vice president Al Gore cited Dylan's influence on his own social consciousness.

A friend from Chicago sent me a link to this weekend's Chicago Tribune story about Dylan's roots in northern Minnesota. The article includes a nice photo of the tip of Lake Superior kissing the Duluth shoreline with our skyline as a backdrop. And speaking of Duluth, the News Tribune did a nice tribute on its editorial page this Sunday.

Then there's the Wall Street Journal story by Gabriel Rubin, a Chicago-based WSJ journalist, who made the trek up here early in the week before to feel the pulse as we proceed toward the day.

And then there's this piece from the Minneapolis Star Tribune. I think the photo at the top says it all. Dylan's having fun, here, and whatever happens this really is a very special moment for the man.

Whether you're planning to attend or following from afar, the best way to stay current is to tap into The Hibbing Dylan Project on Facebook.

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How big is a Nobel Prize? No question it's a tremendous honor that is bestowed with gravity and acknowledged by many to be "the biggest award on earth." That's why as a young writer I made the Prize a facet of the story "Liz Mills," which appears in my volume of short stories Newmanesque.

Meantime, life goes on.... all around you. Will we see you in Hibbing or Stockholm?


http://pioneerproductions.blogspot.no/2 ... stirs.html

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PURPOSE OF THIS THREAD
The purpose of this Thread is mainly to discuss & chat about the Nobel Ceremony as it comes to fruition, particularly the Dylan(less) portion and speech. (Live Chat)
...And to discuss thoughts after it airs.


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PostPosted: Fri December 9th, 2016, 03:33 GMT 
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Johanna Parker wrote:
Is this where we think the speech will be read, and Patti will sing?
http://www.nobelprize.org/ceremonies/archive/video/ceremony_sthlm/2016/index.html



I believe so, yes.

The Nobel Prize Award Ceremony 2016

The Nobel Prize Award Ceremony takes place at the Stockholm Concert Hall, Sweden, on 10 December every year – the anniversary of Alfred Nobel's death. At the ceremony, the Nobel Prize in Physics, Chemistry, Physiology or Medicine, Literature and the Prize in Economic Sciences are awarded to the Nobel Laureates.

Live Video from Stockholm
Watch the Nobel Prize Award Ceremony at the Stockholm Concert Hall, Sweden, on 10 December 2016, 4:30 p.m. (CET) - 6:00 p.m. (CET).


http://www.nobelprize.org/ceremonies/ar ... index.html


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Looking forward to it!


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PostPosted: Fri December 9th, 2016, 11:29 GMT 
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Still Go Barefoot wrote:
Instead, Bob wrote a speech to be read, maybe by Patti.


The speech will be read by one Horace Engdahl.
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=88872&p=1722110&hilit=speech#p1722144



Don't miss Patti this afternoon (Friday) at 4.15 - 4.40pm CET via http://www.nobelweekdialogue.org/.
Reading by Patti Smith
Standing on the Shoulders of Giants. Patti Smith in conversation with Angus Deaton.


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PostPosted: Fri December 9th, 2016, 12:07 GMT 
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This seemed so far away when the award was announced. If only Bob was there, although Patti is a great substitute.


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Johanna Parker wrote:
Still Go Barefoot wrote:
Instead, Bob wrote a speech to be read, maybe by Patti.


The speech will be read by one Horace Engdahl.
http://www.expectingrain.com/discussion ... h#p1722144



Don't miss Patti this afternoon (Friday) at 4.15 - 4.40pm CET via http://www.nobelweekdialogue.org/.
Reading by Patti Smith
Standing on the Shoulders of Giants. Patti Smith in conversation with Angus Deaton.


The Swedish original of the linked article states that Horace Engdahl, one of the more outspoken members of the Swedish Academy, will only read the presentation speech. I'm still really curious about who will read Dylan's speech!


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PostPosted: Fri December 9th, 2016, 13:42 GMT 
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Ah, thanks for the clarification.
Do we know for sure the speech was sent in written form?


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Johanna Parker wrote:
Ah, thanks for the clarification.
Do we know for sure the speech was sent in written form?


No, I don't think so! The Swedish article you linked to only says 'a speech'. He may have sent them a recording of his reading, like Harold Pinter did (do great effect!).


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PostPosted: Fri December 9th, 2016, 15:21 GMT 
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Patti's on now, talking about Herman Hesse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBaZXnBjiLA


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This is a rather bizarre discussion. There's a BBC journalist preseting, who really really doesn't get what Bob Dylan is about - keeps talking about political activism, ect. Then there's Patti, who obviously gets it, then oddly, there's last years Economics Nobel Laureate, who strangely enough also properly gets Bob Dylan and is apparently a fan. So the presenter keeps talking rubbish, but happily the economist and Patti keep saying insightful interesting things.


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PostPosted: Fri December 9th, 2016, 15:34 GMT 
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Another Angus speaking now about Bob! (Professor Angus Deaton)


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doomedtoloveyou wrote:
Another Angus speaking now about Bob! (Professor Angus Deaton)


That's the economist, not the former host of Have I Go News For You, as I wrongly assumed. :oops: :lol:


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That would be Angus Deayton


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PostPosted: Fri December 9th, 2016, 15:54 GMT 
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gibsona07 wrote:
So the presenter keeps talking rubbish


I agree, Sir Angus. She didn't make sense at all. Even Patti said she didn't know what the question was. Patti was cool though (of course). Much looking forward to her singing Hard Rain tomorrow.


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PostPosted: Fri December 9th, 2016, 15:55 GMT 
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What time is she on tomorrow?


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PostPosted: Fri December 9th, 2016, 16:06 GMT 
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gibsona07 wrote:
What time is she on tomorrow?


I would assume she'll be part of this.

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Watch the Nobel Prize Award Ceremony at the Stockholm Concert Hall, Sweden, on 10 December 2016, 4:30 p.m. (CET) - 6:00 p.m. (CET).

https://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_organizations/nobelmedia/live_broadcasts/


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Thank you all for posting the links for this! I really enjoyed Patti & Angus today and look forward to tomorrow. :D :D


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doomedtoloveyou wrote:
Thank you all for posting the links for this! I really enjoyed Patti & Angus today and look forward to tomorrow. :D :D


In terms of time zones, make that 15 mins later than today. :)


Loved Patti's shout out to Lennon, too.


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Enjoyed that, thank you!


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Do we know what language the speech will be read in?


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Nightingale's Code wrote:
Do we know what language the speech will be read in?

Ha! If it's in multiple languages I hope they do English last.


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Nightingale's Code wrote:
Do we know what language the speech will be read in?


It would be strange indeed if the Nobel Laureate's own English words weren't read as he wrote them. If Bob were there, he'd not be reading it in Swedish either.


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3sat is showing Dont Look Back at 23.45 tonight, in honor of Bob's LitNob.


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matulah wrote:
Johanna Parker wrote:
Ah, thanks for the clarification.
Do we know for sure the speech was sent in written form?


No, I don't think so! The Swedish article you linked to only says 'a speech'. He may have sent them a recording of his reading, like Harold Pinter did (do great effect!).


Hoping for a recorded audio/visual speech from Bob.
No one speeches Bob like Bob.


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No way out...

Crayfish wrote:
Some information about his "nobel lecture" from Sara Danius. Kind of..

“I’m not sure a regular concert will do it,” she added. “But the Swedish Academy always tries to accommodate the laureate’s wishes, so if that’s what he’d like to propose, I’m certain there is a way.”

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/12/09/ar ... ebook.com/

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=88872&start=1575#p1723176


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