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PostPosted: Fri October 16th, 2015, 23:21 GMT 
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Cipher_Pipe wrote:
These threads invite a more general question:
was there ever a time when every Dylan fan was happy?


This topic is inspired by Pipe over in the 'Intervention Required' thread.
I only changed one word.


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PostPosted: Sat October 17th, 2015, 00:24 GMT 
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What about the last acoustic tour by himself. Oh wait he wasn't happy just doing that :?


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PostPosted: Sat October 17th, 2015, 02:54 GMT 
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Rolling Thunder Review was a pretty happy time...snowblind too.


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PostPosted: Sat October 17th, 2015, 07:29 GMT 
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I don't know, but I can imagine that somebody might have criticized the RTR shows for being to theatrical, regarding the white make up and everything.
The 74 "comeback tour". I guess everybody was just glad that Bob was back on stage.


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PostPosted: Sat October 17th, 2015, 07:32 GMT 
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Misery and joy are both required for true fandom.


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We're only happy with a tour after it ends and the next one begins. Expect people to miss The Set when/if the concept is abandoned.

2015, now THAT was a good year to see Dylan live! Not what he's doing these days...


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PostPosted: Sat October 17th, 2015, 14:53 GMT 
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We're only happy with a tour after it ends and the next one begins. Expect people to miss The Set when/if the concept is abandoned.

2015, now THAT was a good year to see Dylan live! Not what he's doing these days...

:lol: yep


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PostPosted: Sat October 17th, 2015, 16:12 GMT 
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I think most fans were happy with the 99-00 tours. At least I found it very pleasing. :D
And probably up until '64/65


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PostPosted: Sat October 17th, 2015, 16:18 GMT 
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There is so much Dylan offers there is something for all of us. Just not necessarily at the same time.


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PostPosted: Sat October 17th, 2015, 18:28 GMT 
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1995 to 1996



& Summer/Autumn 1997


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PostPosted: Sat October 17th, 2015, 19:36 GMT 
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shooting_star_night wrote:
1995 to 1996



& Summer/Autumn 1997



Every fan happy then?
A daring assertion


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PostPosted: Sat October 17th, 2015, 19:38 GMT 
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PostPosted: Sat October 17th, 2015, 19:43 GMT 

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[quote="shooting_star_night"]1995 to 1996



Plenty of people were critical of the long guitar jams, the over played 60's songs making up the majority of the set and lack of new material in 1995/96. It's only really the early 1995 leg that gets any kind of consistent praise. The summer shows were quite poor in places.


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PostPosted: Sat October 17th, 2015, 19:54 GMT 
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I know at least of 2 now ex fans who went to a '96 show.
So it can not have been all. :lol:


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PostPosted: Sat October 17th, 2015, 22:22 GMT 
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meuse2208 wrote:
I think most fans were happy with the 99-00 tours.

Those were fun Follow-Bob years, fer shur.


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PostPosted: Sun October 18th, 2015, 00:36 GMT 
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Still Go Barefoot wrote:
meuse2208 wrote:
I think most fans were happy with the 99-00 tours.

Those were fun Follow-Bob years, fer shur.


Yep


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PostPosted: Sun October 18th, 2015, 18:19 GMT 
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Still Go Barefoot wrote:
meuse2208 wrote:
I think most fans were happy with the 99-00 tours.

Those were fun Follow-Bob years, fer shur.


I guess you can't please ever please everyone - but I too left every 2000 Dylan gig i attended feeling very happy.
Great performances , longish concerts and varied setlists


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PostPosted: Sun November 27th, 2016, 14:05 GMT 
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Watched people leave from 10+/- rows back at the last show I attended.
"Unhappy people result in happier people sometimes," I thought to myself as I slid into their evacuated seats.


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PostPosted: Sun November 27th, 2016, 15:17 GMT 

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Like it's been said before - last one is most definitely 1999-2000.

How about 1981? Like 1974, people were happy to get (some) of the old Bob back, no?


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PostPosted: Sun November 27th, 2016, 17:56 GMT 
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Definitely 1974.
Everyone was ecstatic to have Dylan back on the road again. 8) 8) 8)


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PostPosted: Mon November 28th, 2016, 02:52 GMT 

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1999/2000/2001


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PostPosted: Mon November 28th, 2016, 12:38 GMT 
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In the first new york gigs in 61/62 people thought he wasn't pure folk-y enough or that he couldn't sing or play guitar well enough. In the protest-y 62/63 gigs, people either thought he was too protest-y or not protest-y enough, depending on your folk revival politics. Then, the 64/65 post-protest gigs were disliked by the people who had like his previous protest material who thought his new material wasn't protest-y enough. The shit hit the fan in 65/66 with the electric gigs.

Bob then goes back out on the road in 1974, to which one reviewer wrote:

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I saw one of the Oakland Shows near the end of the tour. I thought it was hideous. All bombast, no soul or subtlety at all. I had to walk out toward the end. I liked what the Band did, but Dylan was forced and shouting the lyrics in a completely insensitive way. I thought, "No, he's not a poet. This is show business."


Rolling Stone also criticized the money Dylan had taken from the shows, accusing him of selling out. These accusations then carried through to the Rolling Thunder shows where Rolling Stone continued to criticise the high ticket prices and supposed rock star attitude of everybody's favourite folk hero. The Hard Rain TV special and following live album were also poorly received at the time. The now infamous Salt Lake City show was only half sold.

Then comes the 1978 tour, which was written off by the press as the 'Las Vegas Tour'. The live album from the tour was again a critical flop.

The 1979-81 born again shows were again badly received by fans, with Bob being boo'd once again and many fans walking out.

Every show since 1981 - clichéd reviews from 'greatest hits fans' complaining that Bob Dylan can't sing, doesn't play the hits, rearranges songs so you can't tell what they are.

So, no. There has never been any Dylan tour where every fan has been happy.


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PostPosted: Mon November 28th, 2016, 12:40 GMT 
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shawn wrote:
1999/2000/2001


I wasn't there, but a friend of mine who saw several shows really disliked the fall 2000 tour.


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PostPosted: Mon November 28th, 2016, 13:23 GMT 
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your friend was probably deaf, drunk or not there


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PostPosted: Mon November 28th, 2016, 13:41 GMT 
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meuse2208 wrote:
your friend was probably deaf, drunk or not there


She simply didn't care about Dylan's adopted persona at the time. That's a valid opinion, even if you don't agree.


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